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A18
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« on: November 08, 2004, 12:48:23 PM »

Badnarik was very close to beating Nader.
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A18
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2004, 02:41:46 PM »

There very simple solution to this is to find a Libertarian version of George Soros.

And move toward the center politically.
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A18
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2004, 10:10:28 PM »

It's pretty pathetic to hear Democrats talking about exploiting anyone.

Which candidate was telling old people his opponent wanted to privitize social security? Which candidate was saying his opponent wanted to bring back the draft?

Marriage and abortion are important issues.
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A18
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E: 9.23, S: -6.35

« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2004, 10:16:23 PM »

What party claims that Bush is going to repeal the Civil Rights Act?

That act is unconstitutional, BTW.
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A18
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2004, 11:05:49 PM »

Everyone who already got stuck paying into the ridiculous system needs to get his/her money back out. Other than that, I say kill them both.

Is Bush a conservative? Because he obviously doesn't hate Medicare, being the one to sign the biggest expansion of it into law since LBJ.
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A18
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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2004, 11:10:50 PM »

Social Security doesn't help poor people. More often, it rips them off (like everyone else).
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A18
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2004, 11:13:07 PM »

Well, I'm a [fiscal] conservative, and I'm completely in favor of killing Social Security and Medicare. But everyone who's already in the system should obviously get coverage.
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A18
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2004, 11:32:46 PM »

Shira, it is an absolute fact that 90% of rich people earned it themselves. You can spin it all you want, but that's the statistic.

By the way, some of the exceptions would be the entire Kennedy family.
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A18
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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2004, 11:48:41 PM »

I'm more worried about fixing the idiotic 5,000 page tax code. Replace it with a sales tax, or at least a simple income tax.
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A18
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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2004, 11:55:17 PM »

The point isn't how many poor people became rich. I don't know what the statistics are on that. It's that wealth in this country isn't tied up in a hierarchy of wealthy of families, like you're trying to make it sound.

The 90% of wealthy people who earned it could have been dirt poor or middle class. Completely irrelevant.
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A18
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2004, 12:00:54 AM »

And no one that I'm aware of is born into a family with $0. Anyone who's that poor is mentally ill, plain and simple.
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A18
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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2004, 12:10:25 AM »
« Edited: November 09, 2004, 12:12:28 AM by Philip »

Wrong, they're exceptions.

As for whether or not those who earned it were born poor, not necessarily. Some inherited a small business and turned it into a giant corporation.

The most important factor in getting wealthy is obviously education and skill.
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A18
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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2004, 12:17:13 AM »

Not many Americans, whether in the ghetto or on main street are in true deep deep poverty meaning they have 0$. Even the poorest Americans own at least one television or vehicle.

And the vehicle is taxed, thanks to Democrats
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A18
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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2004, 12:34:50 AM »

I don't know a single person who inherited big wealth. I do know a lot of people who earned it, however.
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A18
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E: 9.23, S: -6.35

« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2004, 01:52:58 PM »

I don't know a single person who inherited big wealth. I do know a lot of people who earned it, however.

I don't know how Bush won...I don't know anyone who voted for him!

I was responding to Shira, who asked about the rich people I know. Taken in context, this post of yours makes no sense whatsoever.
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A18
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« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2004, 09:37:37 PM »

My parents (and their parents) were poor, and now they're semi-rich.
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