Why do so many here greatly overestimate the power of DNC Chairman?

[Shameless Lefty Hack]

1) The DNC Chair is not the Boss of the Party. But it's not nothing.

2) Actually symbols *do * matter quite a lot. And whether y'all think it's childish or not there are a lot of pissed off people that need to feel included in the party.
    2a) And if it's a bureaucratic position related to raising money and electing people, Ellison was flat out the only damned candidate in the field. Perez has raised a truly pathetic amount of money over the course of his political career and has only run a statewide tertiary ticket campaign. Once. 
 
3) The DNC did not rig the primaries. Full stop. We lost NY (and a bunch of other states) because it (they) was (were) a closed primary. And that clerk coincidentally purged like what, a billion votes from Brooklyn? And because the Sanders campaign was worse than the Clinton campaign.

[Shameless Lefty Hack]

1) The DNC Chair is not the Boss of the Party. But it's not nothing.

2) Actually symbols *do * matter quite a lot. And whether y'all think it's childish or not there are a lot of pissed off people that need to feel included in the party.
    2a) And if it's a bureaucratic position related to raising money and electing people, Ellison was flat out the only damned candidate in the field. Perez has raised a truly pathetic amount of money over the course of his political career and has only run a statewide tertiary ticket campaign. Once.  
 
3) The DNC did not rig the primaries. Full stop. We lost NY (and a bunch of other states) because it (they) was (were) a closed primary. And that clerk coincidentally purged like what, a billion votes from Brooklyn? And because the Sanders campaign was worse than the Clinton campaign.

1) So why not give Perez a chance instead of just demonizing him out the gate considering he had almost the same platform as Ellison? If he's as pathetic as DWS, then by all means go all in on the trashing, but what's happening now before he's done anything is actually kind of disgusting.

2) You have as much chance at getting me to ever care about symbolism as you will getting me to care about preserving my family's ethnic heritage, culture and traditions. Actually at one of my former jobs for a cell carrier, I became notorious for being 100% results focused, and not caring about the customers' circumstances or what led to the current situation, but only caring about how to resolve it and nothing more. And it worked. Because none of that bullsh!t mattered, only pure numbers, pure results.

2a) This is an actually valid criticism, so why are we just hearing it now instead of just frothing at the mouth "RAR RAR NEOLIBERALISM CORPORATISM!" nonsense and flat out admitting this whole thing is entirely about a childish desire to "flip the middle finger to the establishment" and nothing more?

3) There aren't a billion voters in Brooklyn. Or even in the entire US. And it's pretty easy to see that any purged votes in Brooklyn would not benefit Sanders. But yeah, common sense on New York and in general.

1) I'm not leaving the party. If he actually attempts to unite the party in a meaningful sense, all the better. Not going to stop helping take over the party, but I'll give him a solid 6/10.

Doesn't change the crime of his election.

2) I mean you can not care, but that doesn't change its importance to social relations.

And as I've stated elsewhere, DNC chair is *actually * a powerful position in certain respects - deciding how the party gets money and where the money goes - that would really help my faction within the party.

3) That was playful exaggeration to attempt to lighten the mood. I guess it didn't work.

[Shameless Lefty Hack]

I'm confused as to how the 2016 election involved Democrats "screwing over the base" or whatever as a premise.

Bernie people think they're the base. They are woefully misinformed.

African-Americans and women are the major base of the party, because they vote for Democrats most consistently. And they voted for Hillary overwhelmingly.

White working class people haven't been the "base" of the party since Reagan if not Nixon. For over a generation it's been African-Americans, Latinos, Jewish people, women and big-city whites. Bernie only did extremely well with one of those demos - and Hillary may have won big-city whites going by her overwhelming victories in NYC, Philadelphia, San Francisco and Los Angeles.

... You're from York or Cumberland county, aren't you?

[Shameless Lefty Hack]

I'm confused as to how the 2016 election involved Democrats "screwing over the base" or whatever as a premise.

Bernie people think they're the base. They are woefully misinformed.

African-Americans and women are the major base of the party, because they vote for Democrats most consistently. And they voted for Hillary overwhelmingly.

White working class people haven't been the "base" of the party since Reagan if not Nixon. For over a generation it's been African-Americans, Latinos, Jewish people, women and big-city whites. Bernie only did extremely well with one of those demos - and Hillary may have won big-city whites going by her overwhelming victories in NYC, Philadelphia, San Francisco and Los Angeles.

... You're from York or Cumberland county, aren't you?

He's right, though.

Nah, you just agree with him.