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Author Topic: Trump supporters: Tell me why the President *isn’t* super-racist.  (Read 7913 times)
Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself
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« on: August 15, 2018, 12:28:46 PM »

With a title like this and 5 pages of posts, I came in here knowing it was going to be a train wreck - and boy did it deliver.

All I’ll say is that I read all the exchanges between the folks here with Sanchez, Sanchez’s older posts about Parkland, and, honestly, I have to side with Sanchez. He wasn’t saying those students in any way deserved this; I think folks like Arch (who I like) read into what he said what they interpreted him as saying, rather than what was actually being said. Sanchez did engage in a bit of victim blaming, but not in an entirely unjustified way. Yes, the victims of the shooter were the ultimate victims; a gun was involved and they very likely wouldn’t have died, at least not in such numbers, without a gun being used; but, also, bullying is a factor here. Those students had been bullying the shooter for god knows how long prior to that event; they were throwing fuel on an unstable fire. If he didn’t have easy access to guns, but did have easy access to mental healthcare, then we likely wouldn’t be discussing this. But, bullying does play a role here and it’s a factor those Parkland students, their parents, and others like them tend to avoid, because that would implicate those who experienced a severe trauma. But, bullying can be traumatic as well for kids, so there does need to be a bit of understanding for the shooter as well, which is what I think Sanchez was trying to articulate (but I’ll let him speak for himself).
This wasn't bullying. This kid was ostracized because he was a violent person who made everyone uncomfortable and a massive racist.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/27/opinion/nikolas-cruz-shooting-florida.html
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/14/us/nikolas-cruz-florida-shooting-suspect/index.html
Bullying doesn't cause mass shootings. If that was true then shooters would be disproportionately fat and/or lgbtq+.
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