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Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself
omegascarlet
Junior Chimp
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« on: March 13, 2018, 02:07:05 PM »

Cue everyone being offended by Clinton acknowledging the reality while continuing to give everyone who uses "coastal elites" a pass as millions of average Californians, New Yorkers, etc... get written off.  Her acknowledging the situation doesn't mean she views those people as lesser; talking about the racial motivations that Trump exploited for his path to victory is something that needs to be spoken about candidly rather than swept under the rug of 'economic anxiety'.

What about the racial motivations of people who voted for Clinton? Clinton supporters openly say their goal is to make the country less white. Nancy Pelosi was crying on the house floor talking about how beautiful it was.

Taking systematic advantages whites/males/etc... have and systematic disadvantages minorities/females/etc... have out of the equation is not 'trying to make the country less white'.  Celebrating our diversity and the strength our country has with the many unique cultural backgrounds its citizens possess is not a bad thing.  Bridging the gap of opportunity between whites/miniorites/males/females/etc... is a good thing.  Further pushing down minorities/females/etc... so whites/males/etc... can enjoy advantages at their expense is not.

I'm not talking about equalizing standards between people who are already here. I'm talking about bringing in new people to make the country less white. This is an explicit policy of the Democrats.

Why is it wrong for the Republicans to "play to racial anxieties" by opposing immigration or supporting skills based immigration but it's okay for the Democrats to play to racial resentment by purposely trying to change the country's racial make up?

Can you honestly not comprehend the fact that we find diversity a good thing in of itself? Stop protecting your racism on to us. Not everything's about some conspiratorial destruction of the "white race".
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Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself
omegascarlet
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 7,103


« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2018, 03:14:11 PM »

Cue everyone being offended by Clinton acknowledging the reality while continuing to give everyone who uses "coastal elites" a pass as millions of average Californians, New Yorkers, etc... get written off.  Her acknowledging the situation doesn't mean she views those people as lesser; talking about the racial motivations that Trump exploited for his path to victory is something that needs to be spoken about candidly rather than swept under the rug of 'economic anxiety'.

What about the racial motivations of people who voted for Clinton? Clinton supporters openly say their goal is to make the country less white. Nancy Pelosi was crying on the house floor talking about how beautiful it was.

Taking systematic advantages whites/males/etc... have and systematic disadvantages minorities/females/etc... have out of the equation is not 'trying to make the country less white'.  Celebrating our diversity and the strength our country has with the many unique cultural backgrounds its citizens possess is not a bad thing.  Bridging the gap of opportunity between whites/miniorites/males/females/etc... is a good thing.  Further pushing down minorities/females/etc... so whites/males/etc... can enjoy advantages at their expense is not.

I'm not talking about equalizing standards between people who are already here. I'm talking about bringing in new people to make the country less white. This is an explicit policy of the Democrats.

Why is it wrong for the Republicans to "play to racial anxieties" by opposing immigration or supporting skills based immigration but it's okay for the Democrats to play to racial resentment by purposely trying to change the country's racial make up?

Can you honestly not comprehend the fact that we find diversity a good thing in of itself? Stop protecting your racism on to us. Not everything's about some conspiratorial destruction of the "white race".

On some level it is hard to comprehend. If you think all people are the same, why is having 60% white people better than having 90% white people? If race doesn't matter, then it shouldn't make a difference.

Why is it socially acceptable to want less white people but not socially acceptable to want more white people or even just the same amount of white people? Either race matters or it doesn't.

It seems like if you think less white people is inherently good, then race really does matter to you.
It's hard to verbalize, but it's definitely different than whatever reasons you have for your racist ramblings. It's part of a general appreciation for difference, a desire for difference, to see all sorts of cool people living together. We have a problem with preventing people from being welcome because of their skin. And seeing whiteness lose it's hold on our society is kind of a good thing.

Plus, the country becoming less diverse would imply atrocities. There is no equivalence between wanting to welcome people and see the dominance of white ego centrism fall and wanting to deport (at best) people for not being white.
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Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself
omegascarlet
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,103


« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2018, 04:51:18 PM »

Cue everyone being offended by Clinton acknowledging the reality while continuing to give everyone who uses "coastal elites" a pass as millions of average Californians, New Yorkers, etc... get written off.  Her acknowledging the situation doesn't mean she views those people as lesser; talking about the racial motivations that Trump exploited for his path to victory is something that needs to be spoken about candidly rather than swept under the rug of 'economic anxiety'.

What about the racial motivations of people who voted for Clinton? Clinton supporters openly say their goal is to make the country less white. Nancy Pelosi was crying on the house floor talking about how beautiful it was.

Taking systematic advantages whites/males/etc... have and systematic disadvantages minorities/females/etc... have out of the equation is not 'trying to make the country less white'.  Celebrating our diversity and the strength our country has with the many unique cultural backgrounds its citizens possess is not a bad thing.  Bridging the gap of opportunity between whites/miniorites/males/females/etc... is a good thing.  Further pushing down minorities/females/etc... so whites/males/etc... can enjoy advantages at their expense is not.

I'm not talking about equalizing standards between people who are already here. I'm talking about bringing in new people to make the country less white. This is an explicit policy of the Democrats.

Why is it wrong for the Republicans to "play to racial anxieties" by opposing immigration or supporting skills based immigration but it's okay for the Democrats to play to racial resentment by purposely trying to change the country's racial make up?

Can you honestly not comprehend the fact that we find diversity a good thing in of itself? Stop protecting your racism on to us. Not everything's about some conspiratorial destruction of the "white race".

On some level it is hard to comprehend. If you think all people are the same, why is having 60% white people better than having 90% white people? If race doesn't matter, then it shouldn't make a difference.

Why is it socially acceptable to want less white people but not socially acceptable to want more white people or even just the same amount of white people? Either race matters or it doesn't.

It seems like if you think less white people is inherently good, then race really does matter to you.
It's hard to verbalize, but it's definitely different than whatever reasons you have for your racist ramblings. It's part of a general appreciation for difference, a desire for difference, to see all sorts of cool people living together. We have a problem with preventing people from being welcome because of their skin. And seeing whiteness lose it's hold on our society is kind of a good thing.

Plus, the country becoming less diverse would imply atrocities. There is no equivalence between wanting to welcome people and see the dominance of white ego centrism fall and wanting to deport (at best) people for not being white.

No one (of any power) is advocating deporting people for not being white. Legally the reason people are being deported is because they are not citizens, they are from somewhere else. I would concede that people would not be as anxious to deport these illegal residents if they were contributing greatly to the economy as leftists often claim. That's not the case though. They and the children they have are a drain on the economy and a burden on taxpayers and that's why people want them gone.

You're not fooling anyone. I'm not going to respond further unless you respond to my post instead of strawmanceptioning(straw manning my words into a strawman) me.
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Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself
omegascarlet
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,103


« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2018, 09:53:34 AM »

Cue everyone being offended by Clinton acknowledging the reality while continuing to give everyone who uses "coastal elites" a pass as millions of average Californians, New Yorkers, etc... get written off.  Her acknowledging the situation doesn't mean she views those people as lesser; talking about the racial motivations that Trump exploited for his path to victory is something that needs to be spoken about candidly rather than swept under the rug of 'economic anxiety'.

What about the racial motivations of people who voted for Clinton? Clinton supporters openly say their goal is to make the country less white. Nancy Pelosi was crying on the house floor talking about how beautiful it was.

Taking systematic advantages whites/males/etc... have and systematic disadvantages minorities/females/etc... have out of the equation is not 'trying to make the country less white'.  Celebrating our diversity and the strength our country has with the many unique cultural backgrounds its citizens possess is not a bad thing.  Bridging the gap of opportunity between whites/miniorites/males/females/etc... is a good thing.  Further pushing down minorities/females/etc... so whites/males/etc... can enjoy advantages at their expense is not.

I'm not talking about equalizing standards between people who are already here. I'm talking about bringing in new people to make the country less white. This is an explicit policy of the Democrats.

Why is it wrong for the Republicans to "play to racial anxieties" by opposing immigration or supporting skills based immigration but it's okay for the Democrats to play to racial resentment by purposely trying to change the country's racial make up?

Can you honestly not comprehend the fact that we find diversity a good thing in of itself? Stop protecting your racism on to us. Not everything's about some conspiratorial destruction of the "white race".

On some level it is hard to comprehend. If you think all people are the same, why is having 60% white people better than having 90% white people? If race doesn't matter, then it shouldn't make a difference.

Why is it socially acceptable to want less white people but not socially acceptable to want more white people or even just the same amount of white people? Either race matters or it doesn't.

It seems like if you think less white people is inherently good, then race really does matter to you.
It's hard to verbalize, but it's definitely different than whatever reasons you have for your racist ramblings. It's part of a general appreciation for difference, a desire for difference, to see all sorts of cool people living together. We have a problem with preventing people from being welcome because of their skin. And seeing whiteness lose it's hold on our society is kind of a good thing.

Plus, the country becoming less diverse would imply atrocities. There is no equivalence between wanting to welcome people and see the dominance of white ego centrism fall and wanting to deport (at best) people for not being white.

No one (of any power) is advocating deporting people for not being white. Legally the reason people are being deported is because they are not citizens, they are from somewhere else. I would concede that people would not be as anxious to deport these illegal residents if they were contributing greatly to the economy as leftists often claim. That's not the case though. They and the children they have are a drain on the economy and a burden on taxpayers and that's why people want them gone.

You're not fooling anyone. I'm not going to respond further unless you respond to my post instead of strawmanceptioning(straw manning my words into a strawman) me.

What specific questions do you want me to respond to?
Read the post and actually respond to it. This isn't hard.
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