Ohio State Attack

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

Am I the only one who didn't interpret Spicy Purrito's post as a "justification" for the attack?

I dont think anyone read it as attempting to justify the attack. It just reads as clueless that someone thinks this guy was otherwise normal until trump gets elected and then all of a sudden that is the trauma that pushes him over the edge. I definitely agree with waiting for more info on the motive whether it be islam or trump.

I suspect it was someone hurting, someone who felt alienated and alone, someone who needed help but didn't recieve it, who was pushed over the edge by trump. It's important to remember that many members of ethnic minorities were really freaked out that someone who's primary election strategy was to attack those who where different is now president.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

Am I the only one who didn't interpret Spicy Purrito's post as a "justification" for the attack?

I dont think anyone read it as attempting to justify the attack. It just reads as clueless that someone thinks this guy was otherwise normal until trump gets elected and then all of a sudden that is the trauma that pushes him over the edge. I definitely agree with waiting for more info on the motive whether it be islam or trump.

I suspect it was someone hurting, someone who felt alienated and alone, someone who needed help but didn't recieve it, who was pushed over the edge by trump. It's important to remember that many members of ethnic minorities were really freaked out that someone who's primary election strategy was to attack those who where different is now president.

Uh... I am an ethnic minority, and so are my American Jewish friends, many of whom weren't exactly pleased when Trump was elected... and they may feel bad, but they don't go around on campus stabbing people or driving cars into people. It's bizarre how some folks on the left think people doing crazy things because they are "pushed over the edge by Trump" is in any way an excuse or a justification. You cannot blame Trump or anyone else for this. You can only blame the guy who did it. There is still something like people's own responsibility in this world. People have agency. People have a choice. This guy made the wrong one. Can't blame Trump or anyone else for that.

And it's pretty insulting to assume ethnic minorities somehow can't be expected to not attack people just because Trump was elected.

My point was that trump was the spark that caused the keg to blow up, metaphorically speaking. We (or at least I) are not arguing that this is all trump's fault. Something else likely would have triggered this if trump had lost. trump was just the final straw. This is someone who was hurting badly enough to turn to violence. I don't assume that members of ethnic minorities are doomed to violence just because of trump. He pushed someone who was already falling apart over the edge, with tragic results.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

Am I the only one who didn't interpret Spicy Purrito's post as a "justification" for the attack?

I dont think anyone read it as attempting to justify the attack. It just reads as clueless that someone thinks this guy was otherwise normal until trump gets elected and then all of a sudden that is the trauma that pushes him over the edge. I definitely agree with waiting for more info on the motive whether it be islam or trump.

I suspect it was someone hurting, someone who felt alienated and alone, someone who needed help but didn't recieve it, who was pushed over the edge by trump. It's important to remember that many members of ethnic minorities were really freaked out that someone who's primary election strategy was to attack those who where different is now president.

Uh... I am an ethnic minority, and so are my American Jewish friends, many of whom weren't exactly pleased when Trump was elected... and they may feel bad, but they don't go around on campus stabbing people or driving cars into people. It's bizarre how some folks on the left think people doing crazy things because they are "pushed over the edge by Trump" is in any way an excuse or a justification. You cannot blame Trump or anyone else for this. You can only blame the guy who did it. There is still something like people's own responsibility in this world. People have agency. People have a choice. This guy made the wrong one. Can't blame Trump or anyone else for that.

And it's pretty insulting to assume ethnic minorities somehow can't be expected to not attack people just because Trump was elected.

My point was that trump was the spark that caused the keg to blow up, metaphorically speaking. We (or at least I) are not arguing that this is all trump's fault. Something else likely would have triggered this if trump had lost. trump was just the final straw. This is someone who was hurting badly enough to turn to violence. I don't assume that members of ethnic minorities are doomed to violence just because of trump. He pushed someone who was already falling apart over the edge, with tragic results.

Most of this called hysteria and projection in the psychological community, I believe.

And yet you still can't directly blame the attacker (an Islamic fundie-2016 has made strange bedfellows, as Simfan recently noted) for his actions.

Is there even evidence that he was a fundimentalist?

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

On his Facebook? On the news?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/29/us/ohio-state-university-attack/

And even that story paints a much greyer picture then "generic evil isis guy".

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This man was incredibly misguided, but he wasn't some heartless killer.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

On his Facebook? On the news?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/29/us/ohio-state-university-attack/

And even that story paints a much greyer picture then "generic evil isis guy".

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This man was incredibly misguided, but he wasn't some heartless killer.

Seriously? Are you seriously still trying to paint his actions as if somehow he was the real victim?

There is a lot of grey area between completely innocent and heartless monster. Your questionable (read: stupid) interpretation of my comment implies that you don't understand this.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

Quit being obtuse and admit: you're glad this happened, because you want this type of violence. It satisfies you politically at best and at worst it satisfies you psychologically.

Are you really going to insult me so plainly as to suggest that I get off to acts of religious violence, simply because I understand that the perpetrator is a human being? I'm shouldn't even be dignifying that with a response.