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omegascarlet
Junior Chimp
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« on: November 27, 2016, 10:32:02 PM »

If you are going to use the word of God as evidence then you must also consider in Romans when Paul wrote "For the wages of sin is death..."

If you believe, as I do, that all of us who have had the chance at some point in our lives have sinned then really we deserve nothing less. But yet out of God's grace and forgiveness He allowed for a sacrifice in our place. 


Further I would argue that when God took the lives of people, or instructed Israel to, it was just and never without cause.

Killing someone for stealing/adultery/any one of the many stupid things that the bible says are sins is kind of a dick move.

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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2016, 06:22:27 PM »

I know I will alienate myself from both the atheists and religious types here, but the God I believe in created space and time out of nothing - in essence, creating every single thought you could have.  It's asinine, given that, to project anything close to your idea of right and wrong to such a being.

The kind of being that could create the entirity of our universe having human values, thoughts, language, form, emotion, etc. is preposterous. Such a being would likely care very little about some self reproducing protein sacks on some random planet with an unusual amount of water, and if it did, only as a curiosity or something to toy with.

TL;DR a god that actually created everything would be closer Cthulhu then Jesus.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2016, 04:54:10 PM »

I know I will alienate myself from both the atheists and religious types here, but the God I believe in created space and time out of nothing - in essence, creating every single thought you could have.  It's asinine, given that, to project anything close to your idea of right and wrong to such a being.

The kind of being that could create the entirity of our universe having human values, thoughts, language, form, emotion, etc. is preposterous. Such a being would likely care very little about some self reproducing protein sacks on some random planet with an unusual amount of water, and if it did, only as a curiosity or something to toy with.

TL;DR a god that actually created everything would be closer Cthulhu then Jesus.

I've never found this argument particularly compelling; such a deity would not be limited by size or ability to perceive--they could, should they "desire" (were we to impose such an emotion onto them--something you have done with "curiosity" and amusement) understand each minuscule carbon-based life form's thoughts and hopes an dreams and actions. This deity wouldn't be forced to search throughout the universe for life, it would be totally and completely aware of every sub-atomic particle. Who's to say it would have no inclination to create or destroy as it sees fit, and for any purpose? The meatbags clinging near-helplessly to life on the blue orb may have been intended from the very beginning. Obviously, an uncaring deity might be as possible as a caring one, but do you consider it beyond the ability of a creator of all matter to place some value on its creations?

I find it unlikely that such a deity would place so much value on a single planet when it created the universe. From what we know about life, it seemed to begin when, by random chance, the right reactions to form self replicating protein sacks formed. And then, slowly, over several billion years, these protein sacks slowly evolved over several billion years of random changes and perfect conditions, until finally, actual prokaryotic cells formed. That doesn't look like an intended purpose. Why set up a planet with the right circumstances to maybe support life when you could actually create it? More likely, a creator would care primarily about the galaxies that it thought the universe needed (at least) a hundred billion of, rather then living beings which it only created on a single planet(or maybe a few). If our universe has a creator, its probably more interested in the giant mass of fusing hydrogen eight light-minutes away then what we do on Earth.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2016, 06:00:11 PM »

I see no reason to assume that a deity would care about humans, especially without any evidence that it even has a human-like ability to care. And plus, this universe is filled mostly with galaxies, stars, etc. that cannot support life. How would you know that humans were even something a creator desired to create instead of a side effect it was apathetic to?
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