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« Reply #125 on: August 29, 2010, 12:26:59 PM »

I am feeling a whole lot better this morning.  I did stay home from church this morning, just to make sure I was back up to full speed for work tomorrow.  I'll probably stay home from church again this evening, as well.
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« Reply #126 on: August 29, 2010, 12:35:49 PM »

How much energy does it take to go to Church exactly? Sitting there can't take much effort.

It's the fact that I didn't want to get anyone else sick.
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« Reply #127 on: August 29, 2010, 08:10:16 PM »

Anyone want to take a bet on how long it is before BushOK misses his first day of work due to a cold?

Well, barring a major turn for the worse, it won't be tomorrow, I can tell you that.
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« Reply #128 on: August 30, 2010, 10:52:29 PM »

i wonder how many times bushie will take his temp today?

Depends on how he takes it, no?

the most accurate way makes the baby jesus cry Sad

I gave the thermometer some tongue action. Tongue

Anyway, I had a really good first REAL day of work at Kirby.  I must retract something I said earlier.  I am not behind the desk, rather I am actually out in people's homes demonstrating the product.  I got to work at 9:30 am today and didn't get home until 10:30 pm.  A 13-hour day.  I only have to do this 5 more times this week!!!  My right arm is starting to bruise up tonight after lifting about 25-30 heavy Kirby boxes.  That may be underestimating it, too.  I enjoyed the day though.  We went to two small towns just northwest of Oklahoma City, Cashion and Kingfisher and had a little more success in Kingfisher.

I've got to try to be in bed by 12:30 or 1:00 in the morning as I have to turn right around and be back at the office between 9:30 and 10:00, ready for another 11-13 hour day.
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« Reply #129 on: August 30, 2010, 11:47:32 PM »



A-Always
B-Be
C-Closing

A-Attention
I-Interest
D-Decision
A-Action

ABC.  Always be closing.  AIDA.  Attention, interest, decision, action.  ABC.  Always be closing.  AIDA.  Attention, interest, decision, action.

Those are good sales quotes, Mikado!!!
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« Reply #130 on: August 31, 2010, 05:05:38 AM »

Anyway, I had a really good first REAL day of work at Kirby.  I must retract something I said earlier.  I am not behind the desk, rather I am actually out in people's homes demonstrating the product.  I got to work at 9:30 am today and didn't get home until 10:30 pm.  A 13-hour day.  I only have to do this 5 more times this week!!!  My right arm is starting to bruise up tonight after lifting about 25-30 heavy Kirby boxes.  That may be underestimating it, too.  I enjoyed the day though.  We went to two small towns just northwest of Oklahoma City, Cashion and Kingfisher and had a little more success in Kingfisher.

I've got to try to be in bed by 12:30 or 1:00 in the morning as I have to turn right around and be back at the office between 9:30 and 10:00, ready for another 11-13 hour day.

Demonstrating the product? Uh ... they're training you to sell it. Be honest with us -- HOW CAN YOU GET A JOB DESCRIPTION THIS WRONG!?!?!?!?

Either they blatantly lied to you, or you waltzed in having no clear understanding of what you were trained on for three straight days. But come on -- there's an enormous difference between "sitting behind a desk being a receptionist" and "traveling vacuum-cleaner salesman."

It's late and I'm not particularly in the mood to entertain what most others here consider to be your complete and utter fabrications, but try taking a stab at answering some questions:

 - Did you expect that you would be selling vacuums at this job? Did anything in the interview and training process hint that this would be your primary role?


I knew it all along, it just took some time for me to admit to myself that I would be a vacuum cleaner salesman.

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I tried selling Kirby’s in February 2005, but quit after 1 day in the field.  I loved selling the Kirby, but I quit because of the cigarette smoke.  They smoked in the office and in the vans.  Plus, I was younger then.   In this office, they smoke but not in the office and not in the vans.  Now, some of their language can put a sailor to shame, but that actually kind of motivates me in some strange way.  I wouldn’t use the language myself, but I’ve become calloused in hearing it that it really doesn’t bother me too much and, like I said, it is a motivation method for me, too.

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$1,600 a month if I do 48 demos a month.  I generally do 2-3 demos a day, and do that 6 days a week, sometimes 7, you can see right away it would be real easy to pass 48 demos.

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I start off as a training exec making $150 on each vacuum sold.  After 12 sales (generally 30-45 days), I make Junior Exec making $450 on each vacuum sold.  After 15 more sales (generally 30 days since I will be more experienced), I will become Senior Exec and make $900 on each vacuum sold.  After that, I have Team Leader, Field Sales Supervisor, Closer, and higher.

Each Monday, I have to turn in a demo log for the previous Monday-Sunday week, and get paid on those sales that Wednesday.  The first paycheck on the sales will be Wednesday, September 8.  If at the end of 4 Wednesday’s (in this case, September 29), my sales don’t equal $1,600, then I will be cut a check for the difference.  If my sales are higher than $1,600, then I will get the sales.  It’s either/or, whichever one is higher.

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After 6 months.  I’m not sure of the provider, yet, but it doesn’t concern me too much as I have benefits through Ameriplan.

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It will be tough, no doubt.  However, once I get a few paychecks under my belt, it will be easier to go to work.  Plus, if I need a day off during the week, I’ll just work that next Sunday if I need to get that 12th demo for the week.  I have another thing going for me, I’m still young (still 8 months from turning 29 years old) and I don’t have a family to worry about now that Susan broke up with me.

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I definitely know I can, because I saw on Monday, first hand, how challenging, yet how easy it is.

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This is true, and I know that vacuum cleaner salesmen aren’t the highest on anybody’s list, somebody’s gotta do it, so why not me?

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I’m not taking any of this personally.  Responding to this post helps me further define what I’m doing, not for anyone else’s sake or benefit, but for my own.
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« Reply #131 on: August 31, 2010, 08:41:30 AM »

Anyway, I had a really good first REAL day of work at Kirby.  I must retract something I said earlier.  I am not behind the desk, rather I am actually out in people's homes demonstrating the product. 

You lied.  Very nice, "Rev".

But some of us who researched the company already knew you did.

Hey, we Reverands are human, too!!!

I knew it all along, too, I just wanted to believe it was something else for a time.  I guess I was living in a "fantasy" world for a week or so.  I don't know why since if you read my response to J-mann from this morning, I actually enjoyed selling the Kirby when I tried it back in February 2005, I just didn't like and couldn't handle all the cigarette smoke.
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« Reply #132 on: August 31, 2010, 08:59:52 PM »

I got home a little early tonight, got home at 8:00.  I had a good day today.  We went out to Weatherford and Hydro, Oklahoma which is about 55-65 miles west of OKC.  I did my first live, solo demo today.  The lady started off acting like she would be an easy drop (easy sell), but then she turned sarcastic saying that she actually liked the dirt in her son's mattress.  Then, she kicked me to the curb in the pouring rain.  Oh well.  Shake the dust off my feet and get back at 'em tomorrow!!
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« Reply #133 on: August 31, 2010, 09:26:27 PM »

Per wikipedia, median household income for Weatherford, OK: $26,908. For Hydro, $27,235. Again, these figures are household not per capita. Why would you try selling a top of the line appliance to somebody who struggles to shop at Wal-Mart? It doesn't make any sense.

Hey, I don't plan the day's activities, I just follow them and put forth my best effort wherever I'm put.
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« Reply #134 on: August 31, 2010, 09:38:39 PM »

Per wikipedia, median household income for Weatherford, OK: $26,908. For Hydro, $27,235. Again, these figures are household not per capita. Why would you try selling a top of the line appliance to somebody who struggles to shop at Wal-Mart? It doesn't make any sense.

Hey, I don't plan the day's activities, I just follow them and put forth my best effort wherever I'm put.

You are trying to sell someone a product that they cannot afford on the off chance they are as gullible as you seem to be.  You are being predatory and I wish you nothing but bad fortune in this endeavor.

Now, we do quite often really come down on our price.  The machine is worth $2,869, but sometimes we can leave it for right around $1,000.  It doesn't take perfect credit to get one of these either, and we can get it down to zero down and under $50 a month, even.  One out of every three (more like 2 out of 7) buys one of these suckers.  I've been with the crew for two days now, and we have sold several machines in these small towns, so it's not impossible.  The value of these machines is what sells it.  I am really confident I'll have my first sale before the end of the week.

I don't see it as predatory, rather, I see it as enlightening and exposing the filth that people live with.  Sure, our machine is pricy, but the benefits from it are worth it.  Fewer allergies and fewer, less severe illnesses are just two of the benefits.
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« Reply #135 on: September 01, 2010, 08:18:11 AM »

I'm not doing Ameriplan and Kirby at the same house, for that would be against the policies of either company, and would be even more unethical than you guys already think either are by themselves.  We are kind of picky about what houses we go into and who we sell to.  We like to see new cars in the driveway or a nice home.  That means they have credit.  We don't go into the homes of single, unemployed students.  If people have been laid off or otherwise unemployed, we will not sell to those people.  The exception to the unemployed rule is retirees.  If they are retired, we will still try to sell to them, although we can drastically reduce the price to those couples.

I have not sold a Kirby to my parents because we don't do warm market. We go out to pre-set appointments, so the people know we're coming, know why we're coming, and know what we're going to do when we get there.

I'm ready for day 3 and a good start to September.
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« Reply #136 on: September 01, 2010, 09:20:40 PM »

I'm sure glad I read the past 3 pages since I posted this morning, I needed a good, hearty laugh!!  You guys are hilarious.  For starters, we still only sell door-to-door.  Sure, there are some unhappy customers such as the couple Gramps mentioned in that report, but there are many more very satisfied customers.  The way we get in the door is offer to shampoo one room absolutely free and we tell them there is absolutely no obligation to buy.  I did two demos today.  The second lady would have bought one had she not been on disability and only bringing in $500 a month.  Our credit finance company would have turned her down anyway if she tried to do monthly payments.  Several of our customers have bought kirby's in the past and they love them and they would do it again if they had the resources.

You know who owns the Kirby Corporation?  None other than William Buffett, himself.

Anyway, I've got 5 more days of work before I get a day off on Tuesday.  I'm working this much, because I know any good salesman will work as much as he can and learn as much as he can in order to be the best salesman he can be.
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« Reply #137 on: September 01, 2010, 10:50:14 PM »

Here is what they told me when I interviewed on Tuesday - no joking around with you.

I interviewed last Tuesday at 1:00 pm and the guy, Don, said I would be demonstrating cleaning products.  I knew right away it was Kirby.  He told me he had a spot he wanted to give me and told me to come back Wednesday morning at 11:30.  I got in there knowing it was going to be a group interview/orientation, because I had done this before.  He interviewed us for an hour and then took us in one-by-one around 12:30 and told us whether or not we had the job.  I was the second one called in and he said "Welcome Aboard and be back at 1:45 for training."  I went back for training at 1:45 (got there at 1:15) and we were finished by 4:30.  Thursday, I went in at noon and there were only about 10 people, whereas there were 19 people Wednesday afternoon and he said he had to let 9 of them go due to background checks.  We were out by 6:00 Thursday.  Friday, we were in by 10:00 and signed our paperwork.  We were told it was a 1099 from the very start, so I knew what to expect.  I asked Don's wife, Dani, who is another trainer, what time we would get home of an evening and she said between 6-8 sometimes later.  I was given an assignment to demo the product to my family and friends over the weekend, but was told it was purely optional and not a deal breaker.  Of course, I got sick over the weekend and couldn't do anything until Monday morning.  I was supposed to be at work at 10:00 am Monday and I got there about 9:10.  We had a little 45 minute training session and hopped in a 15-passenger van about 11:15.  I asked twice more what time we normally got home of an evening and they said between 9 and 11, sometimes earlier and that it all depends on how we're doing.  Neither them or Dani wanted to give me an exact time because it all is based on circumstances and they didn't want to get my hopes up and hold them to an exact time, which I understood and was grateful.  We hopped in the van and went and ate lunch at a local fast food joint before heading to our first town.  We arrived in Cashion about 1:00 and our two canvassers got out and kept knocking on doors to no avail.  We finally gave up on Cashion and went up to Kingfisher and arrived in town about 2:40.  The canvassers knocked on doors and finally got some people in.  I was put into a home with another, more experienced demo person at 4:45.  This couple was elderly and owned oil and gas fields in the northwest part of the state.  They said they were very impressed, but could not afford it at the time, because their royalties hadn’t come in, yet, but should be coming in pretty soon.  We left Kingfisher at 8:45 and got back to the office at 9:35 and then helped our head boss unload about 200 new Kirby’s that he brought from his office in Garden City, Kansas.  I got home about 10:30.  So, they were right about that.  Tuesday, I got there at 9:15 and we were immediately loaded into the same vans as Monday and sent out at 9:45.  The crew leader had an errand to run, business related, but we were on the road headed to Weatherford by 11:00.  We got to W’ford just after 12:30 after stopping in the town of Geary to pick up a Kirby that the credit finance company rejected.  Weatherford has a law that you must have a permit to go door to door and they wanted $100 a person for such permit.  There were 8 of us, so we decided to go on to Hydro where there is no such law.  The two canvassers knocked on doors as did the more experienced salesmen.  I got into a home by myself at 4:45 and started doing the demo.  My crew leader came in and inspected my work and tried to convince her, but she was very sarcastic, saying she loved the dirt in her son’s mattress.  She kicked us to the curb by 6:00 in the pouring rain.  Thankfully, the van was waiting for us.  We then picked everybody else up and headed back to the office and got home about  7:30 and I was home a little before 8:00.  Today, I got to the office at 9:30 and replenished my demo kit and had the morning meeting and were in the vans by 11:30.  We stayed in OKC today hitting the areas due north of the office (and 1 mile either side of due north, up to 7 miles north of the office).  I got into my first home at 4:00 and was out of there by 5:00.  I got into a second home at 7:00 and was out of there by 8:00.  Neither of them sold simply because they were on disability and had no credit.  The second lady really wanted to buy one, but she had also just filed for bankruptcy.  We got to the office at 8:10 and I went out to eat and got home by 9:00.

(part 1 of 2 on this particular post)
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« Reply #138 on: September 01, 2010, 10:50:47 PM »

During training, Don told us there would be $1,600 guaranteed base salary a month and I only had to do 48 demos a month to get that.  He said I would be paid weekly on the sales I produce and that at the end of the month, if my sales didn’t add up to $1,600, I would be cut a check for the difference.  If my sales were over $1,600, then I wouldn’t get any of the base.  He also said that on average, a new person receives $150 per Kirby sold, all the way up to $500 if sold at full price ($2,869).  He also said that 1 out of every 3 or 2 out of every 7 sells, on average, but there are slow days in the mix.  So by that standard I should be getting close to my first sale.  I’ve done 1 demo on my own and have watched 3 demos.   Don also said that while I am not a “salesman”, I would be engaging in selling type activities, but that toward the end of the demo, before we shampoo the carpet, we are to call him and let him close the customer.  Our job is just to get and keep the customer’s interest and realize the need and the long-term money savings that the Kirby can provide (for example, eliminate need for professional carpet cleaners).  Don or our crew leader are the ones that actually “close” the deal.  Don does it over the phone or the crew leader does it, of course, in person.  We can get it down to as low as zero down and under $50 a month.

I’ve only been there three days in the field, and was told training was not paid, so thus far I have not received a paycheck.  I have not discovered any cracks in anything they have told me so far.  Everything has checked out.  He said “I am not going to lie to you, and will never lie to me and if you ever discover a lie, please let us know immediately.”

(Part 2 of 2)
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« Reply #139 on: September 01, 2010, 10:58:38 PM »

Now, if this thing ends up not paying me, then you better believe I'll be the first one out the door.
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« Reply #140 on: September 01, 2010, 11:22:42 PM »

Is everybody in Oklahoma on disability? This defense of Kirby from one of the links BRTD provided is pure awesomeness:
This will be the first time Kirby has been defended on this Website, first of all, I'd like to introduce myself

I am a 4 month old Kirby Salesman working out of Naugutuck connecticut, there I have made a total of 5,200 dollars from commisions alone and I have 26 happy costumers.

First of all I want to agnolige that there are some offices out there who don't pay there salesmen very well, and there are salesmen out there who have tricked and lied to their costumers, but think about this for a minute; if you had a nice and polite salesman come to your house and demonstrate a kirby to you, accept your refusal of purchase without pressuring you, do you really think you'd ever tell anyone about it? No, it was incosiquential, and it happens to billions of americans everyday. Now, let's say your one of the few people who had a bad experiance with a slimy salesman from a slimy office, who pressured you for 2 hours, YOUR GOING TO TELL EVERYONE ABOUT IT!

Now I have read alot of reports from alot of people, and some of them I've found to be pretty stupid. They say the kirby is big and clunky and not worth the money, DID YOU WATCH THE DEMONSTRATION? DID YOU SEE THOSE DIRT PADS? What did you think it was a trick? Go ask any vacuum shop about kirby's and they'll tell you the truth, they last FOREVER Being a kirby salesmen i have sold new machines to people who have older kirby's, and my boss let me keep there old kirbys. I have 2 kirby's in my house that I use everyday, along with dysons, orecks, lux's and every other type of vacuume that people trade when they buy a kirby. I'll admit my boss is particularly nice and treats his salesmen particularly well, but EVERY office gives there salesmen prizes and trips, yes that trip your demonstrater told you he was trying to win is quite real, now what is not real is the power that dyson
 claims to have, why don't you idiots open up your precious dysons for once, you'll find the same clogged filters that every other vacuum has.

The Kirby has no filters, it is VERY portable, it weighs only 21 pounds and has a self propelled 2 spead transmission that makes it very easy to move, so get to know you hardware before you file one of these "rip off reports"

Charles
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U.S.A.

EXACTLY!!!  My office is exactly like his so far.  And, yes, there are slimy offices and slimy salesmen. Don, my trainer, even told us there are different Kirby offices that are independent of one another and there are slimy, lying, and thieving offices out there.  It's just the nature of the beast.  I've asked my fellow salesmen if Abel (the owner of this office) actually does pay them and they said "absolutely".  and I saw paychecks being distributed in the morning meeting today to several people.

Not everyone is on disability, naturally, and there are some affluent and upper middle class homes with hard-working people.  One of our jobs is to feel the customer out right when we get in the door.  We are to ask them about where they work and to rate their credit on a scale of 1 to 10.  We are looking for at least a 4 or 5, and those are the risky ones.  If they say 6 or above, they're usually pretty solid for the finance company.

Oh, and no, I don't own a Kirby of my own.  If I get 15 sales, then i will win a Kirby of my own.  I only have area rugs and one back bedroom room of old carpet, but it also works on hardwood and tile floors, as well.

Don sternly warned us, and Abel keeps emphasizing this, that if we ever get caught lying to our customers that we would find ourselves on the unemployment rolls.

Oh, and the tech drive is so light-weight that even a 2-year-old can push it.
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« Reply #141 on: September 01, 2010, 11:27:17 PM »

Bushie, watch it.  Saying things like light enough a two year old can push it is marketing.

Sorry, sir, but I was just explaining my point.  I wasn't trying to market it.
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« Reply #142 on: September 02, 2010, 08:38:53 AM »

Jeff, pay close f***ing attention to this post ... don't let it get lost in the sea of YouTube videos and other sh**t being posted (as accurate as it all might be).

You have NO guarantee from these people. None. Any posts you have made that attempt to defend your employers inevitably fall back to, "They told me that they're honest," "They told me that I'd get a base salary for doing [an impossible number of] demos," and "The other guys told me that I'll get paid."

Idiot. You don't rely on a company to make oral agreements or promises to you -- GET IT IN F***ING WRITING, YOU GODDAMN DOLT. Get an employment contract. Get your guarantees in writing. Tell them to walk you through a realistic assessment of cold-call-to-demo-to-sale ratios. Make them write out the commission plan. Sign official documentation that SHOWS you what you will receive. If you don't, you risk suffering the very same fate of those dozens of posts on RipOff Report -- you will fail at this job and you will not be compensated for your work.

If you don't demand your guarantee and commission plan are put in writing and signed by both you and your employer, then you're just a big f***ing schmuck.

Don't rely on faith anymore. Don't rely on your "intuition." This thread -- along with "I have a new job!" -- has proven that you are one of the absolute worst judges of character and have zero talent for situational awareness. As mocking as we all may be, we're trying to make you realize you're setting yourself up for yet another bumbling failure.

And you can blow the positivity out your ass -- demos are not easy to come by, and sales are even more difficult to come by ... in any industry. And Smash is right ... if you're not the one closing a sale, chances are there's no commission in this for you (again -- GET IT IN WRITING, MORON).

I do have a contract and I did look over everything they put forth in that contract before I signed it.  It said everything that I mentioned above, $1,600 a month base for 48 demos regardless of units sold.  Like I said, 48 demos is not an impossible number.  That's only 12 demos a week roughly and I've got 4 so far in the first three days.  True, I'll be working my tail off doing this, but I'm young and single, I have nothing else really that I have to do.  Again, if they don't pay me, I'll be the first one out the door.  However, I doubt that will happen as I physically saw paychecks being handed out yesterday.  So, that's reassuring.  For now, though, they have told me absolutely zero lies and, so far, everything that they told me during training has come to pass at this point.

I know you guys are worried about this, but I've checked this out and, for one, I believe in this product and believe in what I'm doing.  Plus, I'm actually having fun with these guys and gals.  They are fun, fun people.  Yeah, true, they put a sailor to shame in their language, but they are truly fun people and the language actually kind of motivates me in some strange way.  I don't like it, but it does motivate me.

At first, when I told my mother I was doing Kirby, she said "run", but then she realized that it's a really good product, worth all of the price, and she said "you can do it."  My dad said the exact same thing.  They said they can't buy one, but I'm not trying to sell to them or to any of my family.
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« Reply #143 on: September 02, 2010, 08:47:13 AM »

During training, Don told us there would be $1,600 guaranteed base salary a month and I only had to do 48 demos a month to get that.  He said I would be paid weekly on the sales I produce and that at the end of the month, if my sales didn’t add up to $1,600, I would be cut a check for the difference.  If my sales were over $1,600, then I wouldn’t get any of the base.  He also said that on average, a new person receives $150 per Kirby sold, all the way up to $500 if sold at full price ($2,869).  

On average, $150 per sale?  

It could be as low as $100 all the way up to $500, it all depends on how much we actually sell it to the customer for.  $150 is the average commission made on one of these for newbies.

While we can go down quite a ways on the price, there is a floor that we must try to stay above at all costs and that is $1,200 in order to get a commission check off it.  Any sale will count toward our bonuses and our contest, which is a trip to Disneyworld in February, but if we want money out of it, it has to be sold higher than $1,100, preferably $1,200 or more.
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« Reply #144 on: September 02, 2010, 08:48:41 AM »

I do have a contract and I did look over everything they put forth in that contract before I signed it.  It said everything that I mentioned above, $1,600 a month base for 48 demos regardless of units sold.  Like I said, 48 demos is not an impossible number.

It's good that your salary isn't based on a prerequisite that "is not impossible" to achieve.  Oh wait...

That's only 12 demos a week roughly and I've got 4 so far in the first three days.

Do you see what's wrong with that sentence?

There are still 4 days left in the week - Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.  It's very achievable.  Plus, I'm brand new, so of course my numbers will be lower.  Most people have about 6 or 7 demos right now.
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« Reply #145 on: September 02, 2010, 09:25:29 PM »

Well, folks.  I haven't updated facebook, yet, but I am seriously thinking about dropping Kirby.  I believe in Kirby, but they expect me to work 7 days a week, 30 days a month, and really frown on days off.  Working 7 days a week would take away my freedom.  I like to go to church, working 7 days doesn't allow that.  I like to play games with my church friends.  I like to watch football.  This job would say no to that, as well.

Today, I got really discouraged at it.  It wasn't a good day, to be honest.  I saw the plight my customer was in and how my supervisor haggled her for 15 minutes trying to get her to buy one when she clearly couldn't afford it.  That pretty much sealed the deal right there.

Plus, with my Tourette's, if I work myself too hard for too long I will get sick and be down for 10 days.  I have to have my days off.  I could have handled working 6 days a week, but not 7.

Tomorrow, I am first going to call my mother because she is the one helping me out financially, and then go up to the office, turn in my demo kit and shake hands and thank them for their time and then drive home and get started looking again on Tuesday.  This time, I will look for a DESK job, not one of these gimmicks.

I still will do Ameriplan, but I am not going to spend all seven days of the week working my tail off for pennies.

So, how long is my tenure at Kirby going to last?  12 more hours...
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« Reply #146 on: September 02, 2010, 09:49:02 PM »

So, Bushie, any idea what you want to do? Making a decision there is your first step to employment. People have thrown several legit ideas at you (grocery, temp agency, restaurant). Considering how all about Jesus you are, perhaps you could go to divinity school and be a "real" preacher.

I still have the temp agencies numbers and still have apps in with them.  I'd really like to work in the IT field since that's where my degree is at, but I have no idea on how to get an entry-level IT job.
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« Reply #147 on: September 02, 2010, 09:50:49 PM »

Bushie, does the Kirby have hypo allergenic filters?

Yes
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« Reply #148 on: September 03, 2010, 08:13:00 AM »

Bushie, I'm telling you man, the State of Oklahoma is the place to look http://jobaps.com/ok/sup/images/default.asp

Your education and experience at ONG is enough to get you in at half of those jobs IMO.  Most of them in Oklahoma City or Midwest City.  Does working for Human Services or Veterans Affairs sound a little mundane? Perhaps.  Can you work your way up and use your IT education to get you doing work for them that is more suitable for skills? Yessir.  Is it safe employment? Absolutely!

I did apply at the State right before I found Kirby.

It is official, at 9:00 this morning, I am going to go into the office and turn in my demo kit and shake hands telling them thanks, but no thanks and then turn around and come home and relax the rest of the day.  The job search will resume on Tuesday.
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« Reply #149 on: September 03, 2010, 08:40:33 AM »

It is official, at 9:00 this morning, I am going to go into the office and turn in my demo kit and shake hands telling them thanks, but no thanks and then turn around and come home and relax the rest of the day.  The job search will resume on Tuesday.

Typically, for the unemployed, it's ideal to keep searching past 9am in the morning

Normally, I would, but my mother and dad both said that I've been working myself pretty hard the past 10 days and I need to chance to breathe.  Couple that with the holiday weekend, they're thinking I would have better response from employers on Tuesday after a long weekend than I would today before a long weekend, when a lot of employers and hiring reps may be taking a 4-day weekend.  Plus, my cold is still hanging around from last weekend and I think it's probably because of all the dust I've been around.  So, I'm going to stay home today and tomorrow and then go to church Sunday and relax Monday and then get started searching again on Tuesday.
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