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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #225 on: February 27, 2015, 03:16:46 PM »

Moving the conversation from the Over/Under thread to here:

I am aware of the physical challenges this job presents.  At the same time I am excited about the chance to get some legitimate exercise as a part of my work.  I looked at a job description last night for the Owasso store Meat Clerk and it said I could walk up to 2 miles in an 8 hour day.  I will be very sore.  I am very aware my back and my feet will be killing me by day's end, but at the same time I am looking forward to possibly losing weight from the constant standing up and walking.  Over time, my back and feet won't hurt as bad as I get used to it.  I don't see standing and walking as unreachable challenges, I see them as a potential complete lifestyle overhaul.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #226 on: February 27, 2015, 03:38:25 PM »

Haven't been around much the last couple days so just saw this now.  First off,  Congrats Bushie.  Looks like you actually landed a real job.  This is legit and looks like something you can handle.  I also won't worry much about walking 2 miles in an 8 hour day.  Your feet might be a bit sore from being on your feet, but it isn't like you are walking those miles non-stop over an 8 hour period its basically nothing.

Thanks for the encouragement and putting the two miles into perspective.  Straight walking, 2 miles would take me 40 minutes.  If I were continually walking over an 8 hour shift, I would be putting in 24 miles a day.  I wasn't worried about it to begin with, but putting it in perspective helps even more.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #227 on: February 27, 2015, 03:44:45 PM »

Haven't been around much the last couple days so just saw this now.  First off,  Congrats Bushie.  Looks like you actually landed a real job.  This is legit and looks like something you can handle.  I also won't worry much about walking 2 miles in an 8 hour day.  Your feet might be a bit sore from being on your feet, but it isn't like you are walking those miles non-stop over an 8 hour period its basically nothing.

Thanks for the encouragement and putting the two miles into perspective.  Straight walking, 2 miles would take me 40 minutes.  If I were continually walking over an 8 hour shift, I would be putting in 24 miles a day.  I wasn't worried about it to begin with, but putting it in perspective helps even more.

How long do you expect your midday crap to take?  That might knock off 3 miles. 

Not quite sure.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #228 on: February 27, 2015, 04:37:26 PM »

Don't worry about the discomfort of standing for hours on end. The first couple of weeks will be the worst. But after that, your body starts to get used to standing for so long. Then one day you'll realize you've been standing the whole day and don't have any discomfort.

It'll go by faster than you know it.

That's what I think, as well.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #229 on: February 27, 2015, 06:46:09 PM »

While I watch basketball tonight I am going to do some research on the different cuts of meat in an effort to start training myself for my new job.  I likely have 23 days until I actually start work and I don't want to waste any evenings if I can help it.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #230 on: February 27, 2015, 07:19:33 PM »

It's starting to sink in that I am actually employed.  I actually have a job and not just a job, a potential career.  It feels good too!
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #231 on: February 27, 2015, 07:31:36 PM »

It's starting to sink in that I am actually employed.  I actually have a job and not just a job, a potential career.  It feels good too!



I just have to make sure to count my fingers every night... Make sure I'm still at 8 fingers and 2 thumbs...
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #232 on: February 27, 2015, 07:46:36 PM »

What if Bushie ends up as a grocery store manager making 80,000 dollars a year?

That'd be nice.  That's something to set my sights on, but first I must take care of the here and now.  GSM is my goal and I am going to start the path toward that.  I must put in the time faithfully day in and day out if I ever hope to move up the ladder.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #233 on: February 27, 2015, 08:23:37 PM »

I looked at a job description last night for the Owasso store Meat Clerk and it said I could walk up to 2 miles in an 8 hour day.  I will be very sore.  I am very aware my back and my feet will be killing me by day's end, but at the same time I am looking forward to possibly losing weight from the constant standing up and walking.  Over time, my back and feet won't hurt as bad as I get used to it.  I don't see standing and walking as unreachable challenges, I see them as a potential complete lifestyle overhaul.

You have an entire month with nothing else to do, during which you can "train" for this.  Why don't you walk 40 minutes tomorrow, and see if you can handle it?


I may do that when I get back to Tulsa this next week.  I'm down at my parents' in OKC this weekend and we've got an inch of snow on the ground and expecting another 2-4" tomorrow plus some late afternoon sleet or freezing drizzle.  Later this week it's supposed to be in the 50's and 60's, so it will be a good time to walk.  I will be working in a climate-controlled building with fairly uniform temperatures except for the time I'm in the meat freezer.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #234 on: February 27, 2015, 08:46:14 PM »

My 33rd birthday is 60 days away.  Is it appropriate to call this job an early birthday present?
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #235 on: February 27, 2015, 08:57:50 PM »

I looked at a job description last night for the Owasso store Meat Clerk and it said I could walk up to 2 miles in an 8 hour day.  I will be very sore.  I am very aware my back and my feet will be killing me by day's end, but at the same time I am looking forward to possibly losing weight from the constant standing up and walking.  Over time, my back and feet won't hurt as bad as I get used to it.  I don't see standing and walking as unreachable challenges, I see them as a potential complete lifestyle overhaul.

You have an entire month with nothing else to do, during which you can "train" for this.  Why don't you walk 40 minutes tomorrow, and see if you can handle it?


I may do that when I get back to Tulsa this next week.  I'm down at my parents' in OKC this weekend and we've got an inch of snow on the ground and expecting another 2-4" tomorrow plus some late afternoon sleet or freezing drizzle.  Later this week it's supposed to be in the 50's and 60's, so it will be a good time to walk.  I will be working in a climate-controlled building with fairly uniform temperatures except for the time I'm in the meat freezer.

I assume the "diet" is on hiatus while you're in OKC?


I'm trying to behave, but I've got to eat what they have bought.  We had chili tonight for supper, but I was a good boy and only had a handful of Fritos and cheese.  I have had too many cokes today, though.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #236 on: February 27, 2015, 08:58:45 PM »

My 33rd birthday is 60 days away.  Is it appropriate to call this job an early birthday present?

Yes. Celebrate by losing weight so you'll live to be 34.

Good idea.  This job should do a good job of that.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #237 on: February 27, 2015, 09:48:54 PM »

I have just done a little research on the different cuts of meats out there.  I knew some of them, but there were some I had not heard of before such as short loin and a couple of others.  The article I read had a short description of what each cut was, how to cook it and how much is common for one person for a good meal (most were around 1 pound per person) and the price.  Over the next few nights I am going to break down each individual cut and do some more in-depth research.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #238 on: February 27, 2015, 09:55:53 PM »

You act like this job will solve all of your weight problems, Bushie. Tongue

It won't solve all of it, but it will definitely help.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #239 on: February 28, 2015, 10:56:32 AM »

What if Bushie ends up as a grocery store manager making 80,000 dollars a year?

That'd be nice.  That's something to set my sights on, but first I must take care of the here and now.  GSM is my goal and I am going to start the path toward that.  I must put in the time faithfully day in and day out if I ever hope to move up the ladder.

Jeffy, congrats on the new job! Do us all a favor though and stop thinking about making a damn career out of everything. You did this at sprint, dell, Xerox, and cad(d) jobs, and look where they ended up. Just take this opportunity for what it is, and don't act like this job is beneath you. You'll never make it higher if you think like that. Take this position for what it is, and just do your job. We want you to succeed, but you have to remain realistic.
That was kind of my fault, I was just thinking about the possibility.

I don't there's anything wrong with having a goal in mind, just as long as one doesn't overlook and short-circuit what they have to do to reach said goal.  I have a goal to get into management, but that doesn't mean I'm going to neglect my daily duties as a meat clerk.  Like I said in my last post, if I neglect what I have to do now then I will never reach my goals.  So, management is my goal.  However, I want to just get in there and see what working in a natural foods grocery store is like.  I want to experience all the here and now has to offer while working with a purpose and a why.
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« Reply #240 on: February 28, 2015, 11:19:32 AM »

Today, since I'm snowed in, I'm going to watch a lot of college hoops.  While I watch the college hoops, I am going to look deeper into two or three of the cuts of meat that I read about last night.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #241 on: February 28, 2015, 06:14:08 PM »

Yeah. Bushie generally most questions  people ask about cuts of meat is best way to prepare it. "Veal chops are on sale? How do I cook those?"

At the very least watch some cooking shows if not making things yourself.

I need to find a way to cook the meat without a grill.  It seems like it would take too long to put in the oven and probably not taste as good and juicy as if I were to slap it on the grill.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #242 on: February 28, 2015, 06:23:41 PM »

it is too bad that you are basically starting a week before opening.

the grocery store i work at opened on oct. 26.  i began working/training on july 7th (at another location).

all employees went through a long training period.

Personally, I think we should start on March 16 instead of 23.  Of course, I've never worked at a grocery store and don't know anything, so I'll defer to those who have.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #243 on: February 28, 2015, 06:24:50 PM »

Well, you can't criticize him for that. I do hope he learns about meat and how to cook it. Most people will ask things like that and not random technicalities of cuts of meat.

Again, being in an apartment and not owning a grill makes it rather difficult to properly cook meat.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #244 on: February 28, 2015, 07:45:37 PM »

Thanks, guys, I will check the links you gave me out.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #245 on: February 28, 2015, 08:05:08 PM »

Well, you can't criticize him for that. I do hope he learns about meat and how to cook it. Most people will ask things like that and not random technicalities of cuts of meat.

Again, being in an apartment and not owning a grill makes it rather difficult to properly cook meat.

Oh my god, Bushie

Lesson number one: Most meat is not cooked on a grill.

You really should spend the next couple of weeks buying different type of meat and trying to cook them. You will not have your job long if you don't. This isn't an ordinary supermarket you're going to be working at.

I will try to cook a few different types of meat over the next two to three weeks.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #246 on: February 28, 2015, 08:18:16 PM »

Oh Bushie. You have plenty of time! Don't just plan to cook. Do it. This will be your job and if you don't know anything about what you're doing you won't last long.

I'm rooting for you so don't screw it up!

I didn't mean that I would stop after two to three weeks.  I definitely want to make this cooking meat a hobby instead of a one hit wonder.  You're right, it will definitely help me in my job.  I'm looking forward to it.  I'll be back in Tulsa either Monday evening or Tuesday morning, so I can go to an existing store to browse it and get a cut of meat and see what I can do to cook it.  When I cook meat, I think it will be better if I can get meat from a store like where I will be working at so I can have a better idea on how to cook THEIR products.  The meat will likely be the same as it would be in Walmart or a regular supermarket, but the animals will probably be mostly grass-fed.  That shouldn't change the types of meat they have, though, but still.

Could someone who has cooked meat from a natural foods store tell me if they have the same meats as a regular supermarket?  It's an honest question.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #247 on: February 28, 2015, 08:27:30 PM »

Yes, they sell the same cuts as a Walmart or wherever else, but they're usually USDA prime, select or angus beef. Or local meat that's grass fed. But almost all places sell the same cuts. It doesn't look much different than normal meat.

I will say you have a lot more to learn than I thought.

That's what I thought.

Hey, what can I say, I'm a complete newbie at this...  I think when I start cooking their products, I am going to start with something simple like browning the ground beef.  I'll do both the 93/7 lean meat which is good for like spaghetti, tacos, or sloppy joes (stuff you add seasoning or sauce to) and the 85/15 which is what we like for making hamburger patties.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #248 on: February 28, 2015, 08:37:23 PM »

Yes. Browning ground meat is a start. Cooking any meat isn't that difficult. Salt and pepper is really all you need on a good steak like a ribeye. Maybe you can try that after you brown some hamburger.

Will you also be selling pork, lamb, and chicken? Or just red meat?

I imagine I'll be selling all meat.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #249 on: February 28, 2015, 08:43:45 PM »

At the interview, did they ask you if you knew anything about meat (or any other types of food)? You don't need to be a world famous chef to work at a supermarket meat counter, but it may be good to know how to brown some ground beef. Jesus tapdancing Christ, it's not that Inksing difficult. Are you going to be responisible for seafood as well?

Yes, they asked me and are well aware that I don't know jack about meat.  Although I did brown some ground beef just this evening en route to a sloppy jo dinner.  Yes, I cooked it.  Not Mom, not Dad, not Grandma.  I did it!!!
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