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bilaps
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« on: September 28, 2016, 08:44:43 PM »

I expected at least plus 5 for Clinton. This is bad for her.
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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2016, 09:11:01 PM »

I expected at least plus 5 for Clinton. This is bad for her.

So let me get this straight.

You expected PPP to give Hillary a bigger bump from the debate than from the bump they found after the DNC? Especially after Clinton's worst 2 weeks?

Get real.

No man, you Hillary hacks need to get real. After this debate only 4pts up nationaly in dem friendly poll. But if you are satisfied..
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bilaps
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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2016, 09:17:46 PM »

I expected at least plus 5 for Clinton. This is bad for her.

So let me get this straight.

You expected PPP to give Hillary a bigger bump from the debate than from the bump they found after the DNC? Especially after Clinton's worst 2 weeks?

Get real.

No man, you Hillary hacks need to get real. After this debate only 4pts up nationaly in dem friendly poll. But if you are satisfied..

PPP has not been generally Democrat friendly this cycle - They only showed her up 5 after the Democrat national convention as other pollsters showed her up nearly double digits. She's pretty close to 50%, which is a better place to be.

First of all, you are talking about this cycle, you are comparing polls with polls, you don't compare polls with actual results, if you know what I mean.

Second, the country is too divided for anyone at any point of the race to be up double digits, it's not real

Third, she is at 44%. Don't get why are you using 2way numbers when there will be more than 2 people on the ballot.
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bilaps
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2016, 09:20:43 PM »

I expected at least plus 5 for Clinton. This is bad for her.

So let me get this straight.

You expected PPP to give Hillary a bigger bump from the debate than from the bump they found after the DNC? Especially after Clinton's worst 2 weeks?

Get real.

No man, you Hillary hacks need to get real. After this debate only 4pts up nationaly in dem friendly poll. But if you are satisfied..

PPP aint dem friendly.

No, they include questions like what do you like more bedbugs or donald trump due to their objectivness in the process.
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bilaps
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2016, 09:24:29 PM »



I look at 2 way numbers because there are very few people supporting Gary Johnson because of Gary Johnson or Jill Stein because of Jill Stein, and as a result of that the third parties will fade quickly. I think 2 way gives a better view of the way things will turn out, in my opinion.

It's a fair point but Johnson is at 6, others are at 3, this isn't like they are polling in double digits so that we assume some massive shift. Third party candidates are graduly declining but they will get some votes and I don't think it's unreasonable to think they will combine for 6,7,8 points.
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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2016, 09:27:36 PM »


After the top-line questions in order to not influence the numbers.

I'm not implying they are influencing the numbers with that question. But they are dem leaning, no normal polling firm would ever ask that question. And we know they are basicaly dem pollster so they are dem leaning.
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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2016, 09:36:21 PM »


After the top-line questions in order to not influence the numbers.

I'm not implying they are influencing the numbers with that question. But they are dem leaning, no normal polling firm would ever ask that question. And we know they are basicaly dem pollster so they are dem leaning.

But they aren't.

Every man has a right to opinion, I guess on RCP when the D shows up in brackets after PPP it means Deutschland.
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