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« on: June 05, 2023, 06:00:55 PM »

Some of the actions done by several people in this game, including some of those I considered myself to be friends with, have convinced me that my assumptions about most people here being genuinely bad people were in fact correct.

If you don't realize how some of the actions being taken by those on the "good" side set a dangerous precedent: you're part of the problem.

I'm not going to defend everything YT has done (and he is very well aware there's a lot he's done that I don't agree with), but I'm not going to pretend everyone against YT is actually doing the right thing.
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2023, 02:57:03 PM »

I don’t appreciate the fact you are assuming nothing will happen out of Scott’s actions.

Btw I also made this thread to basically show people here how toxic the game has become and warn new players about what people in this game might do .

You publicly stated the "intended action", even though such a determination has not been made, much less revealed. You then called the modcave a disgrace on the basis of said "presumed" action and proceeded in a concern trolling fashion to opine on the impacts of such "presumed" action.

The mods have lives outside of this forum. It takes time to hold a thorough discussion. It also takes time for the admins to deliberate and proceed with a course of action once that discussion has been held.

It rings rather hollow to express concern for the potential toxicity, while simultaneously contributing to an environment of hostility with such a post as your OP was. 


The mods have lives outside of the forum, sure.

Too bad you don't grant that same courtesy & mindset towards other posters who have lives outside of the game. Let's not pretend you haven't taken part in some of the hostility going on to some degree, especially when you've defended several people who have been engaged in some of the toxic sh!t going on recently.
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2023, 09:47:31 PM »

Too bad you don't grant that same courtesy & mindset towards other posters who have lives outside of the game.

Yes I contacted you and Muaddib via DM in early May to make sure he swore in on time, and I made a passing comment to you that YT returning was a mistake (a comment which you misinterpreted ftr. I never meant to imply that you should have physically stopped him from returning or whatever it was you told Mr. R on Facebook that night. Coincidentally I was explaining that very miscommunication to Mr. R when he brought it up in a Group DM, which provided the opportunity for Laki to obtain said Facebook image. Yet you guys falsely blamed this on LT, either in the hopes of misleading the moderation staff on the Atlas into banning him for "repeat offense" or just to justify bouncing him from conservacord).

Aside from that I don't recall contacting you or Muaddib during the period in which he was in the states. I also lamented the fact that Muaddib was inactive on a discord server and acknowledged that the two of you were busy with "RL matters", such was seen by a diverse range of players in multiple parties.

So I am at a loss as to where I specifically "disrupted your life outside of the game" or "did not extend the same courtesy".

But if you are now suddenly taking offense to those limited communications, I would point out that two months prior you texted me on my personal cell phone number, just two weeks after I tripped and fell at work, to make sure I voted the right way on the whole Greenland matter, lest YT get mad. So I really don't want to hear the faux outrage.

 


If you're going to lie, at least make sure the person you're lying about doesn't have receipts. I didn't tell you how to vote, I reminded you of the vote.

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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2023, 10:00:09 PM »

Too bad you don't grant that same courtesy & mindset towards other posters who have lives outside of the game.

Yes I contacted you and Muaddib via DM in early May to make sure he swore in on time, and I made a passing comment to you that YT returning was a mistake (a comment which you misinterpreted ftr. I never meant to imply that you should have physically stopped him from returning or whatever it was you told Mr. R on Facebook that night. Coincidentally I was explaining that very miscommunication to Mr. R when he brought it up in a Group DM, which provided the opportunity for Laki to obtain said Facebook image. Yet you guys falsely blamed this on LT, either in the hopes of misleading the moderation staff on the Atlas into banning him for "repeat offense" or just to justify bouncing him from conservacord).

Aside from that I don't recall contacting you or Muaddib during the period in which he was in the states. I also lamented the fact that Muaddib was inactive on a discord server and acknowledged that the two of you were busy with "RL matters", such was seen by a diverse range of players in multiple parties.

So I am at a loss as to where I specifically "disrupted your life outside of the game" or "did not extend the same courtesy".

But if you are now suddenly taking offense to those limited communications, I would point out that two months prior you texted me on my personal cell phone number, just two weeks after I tripped and fell at work, to make sure I voted the right way on the whole Greenland matter, lest YT get mad. So I really don't want to hear the faux outrage.

 


If you're going to lie, at least make sure the person you're lying about doesn't have receipts. I didn't tell you how to vote, I reminded you of the vote.



What's the difference?

Spin it however you want, but the facts aren't supporting you. And it's only continuing to prove what I've said about you in the midst of everything going on currently. If you're going to imply something that isn't there, it's not my fault you couldn't read.

As for this point:

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either in the hopes of misleading the moderation staff on the Atlas into banning him for "repeat offense"

Please point to a single instance where I have contacted a single Atlas mod regarding trying to get LT banned in any way, shape, or form over Atlasia since this drama started.
(Hint: you won't find one.)

There were also numerous reasons for LT's conservacord ban, which were weighed in by other mods on the server that aren't active in Atlasia. In fact, YT of all people can attest that I was the one who pushed back when he initially banned LT when this drama started, and I was the one who let LT back in prior to his permaban after YT did that without consulting the rest of the mods. Which I also have receipts for.


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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2023, 10:22:34 PM »

If he is "spamming you" it rather implies only a certain outcome will be acceptable doesn't it? Tongue

No I get spammed about votes sometimes. I've never been told I HAVE to vote a certain way. YT knows I'll tell him No.

I wasn't given the impression I could do that without serious in game consequences.

You weren't given that impression from me, no matter how much you want to pretend otherwise.

And for someone pretending he's worried about serious in game consequences, you sure are poking the wrong bear if you really want to keep this act up.
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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2023, 10:28:53 PM »

If he is "spamming you" it rather implies only a certain outcome will be acceptable doesn't it? Tongue

No I get spammed about votes sometimes. I've never been told I HAVE to vote a certain way. YT knows I'll tell him No.

I wasn't given the impression I could do that without serious in game consequences.

You weren't given that impression from me, no matter how much you want to pretend otherwise.

And for someone pretending he's worried about serious in game consequences, you sure are poking the wrong bear if you really want to keep this act up.
Is that a threat?

All I can say is best of luck in any future elections for you, Yankee, and any Federalists supporting your behavior. You'll need it.
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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2023, 10:38:04 PM »

Spin it however you want, but the facts aren't supporting you. And it's only continuing to prove what I've said about you in the midst of everything going on currently. If you're going to imply something that isn't there, it's not my fault you couldn't read.

You have also done a great deal to make everyone of my points, so I thank you for that.

If you're going to imply something that isn't there, it's not my fault you couldn't read.

Are you seriously going to argue that is an unreasonable interpretation? Come on, let's be real here. We all know how he operates. 

You are also forgetting the larger point, that which is you have no high ground from which to condemn me for "not respecting RL". You admitted to contacting me and even proved it.



I contacted you about a vote. Would you like me to post screenshots of texts you've sent me over the years about Atlasia? Because I am more than happy to do so.


As far as this idea that I misinterpreted anything you said about YT returning to Atlasia, seems like you need to be reminded of some things:



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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2023, 10:40:03 PM »

If he is "spamming you" it rather implies only a certain outcome will be acceptable doesn't it? Tongue

No I get spammed about votes sometimes. I've never been told I HAVE to vote a certain way. YT knows I'll tell him No.

I wasn't given the impression I could do that without serious in game consequences.

You weren't given that impression from me, no matter how much you want to pretend otherwise.

And for someone pretending he's worried about serious in game consequences, you sure are poking the wrong bear if you really want to keep this act up.
Is that a threat?

All I can say is best of luck in any future elections for you, Yankee, and any Federalists supporting your behavior. You'll need it.


I am not going to be extorted anymore for a game.

Pissing off someone you are blatantly lying about and them saying they won't support you isn't extortion. Get over yourself.
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