New Charlottesville 'white civil rights rally' in DC (Unite the Right 2)

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Here's to hoping both the Nazis and the people out there counter protesting can get their act together and not escalate things.  

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Here's to hoping both the Nazis and the people out there counter protesting can get their act together and not escalate things.  

When has there ever been a time where "Nazis not escalate things?" (Either in the early 1940's or today?)
They're Nazis!

I find it hilarious you're not also calling out the "Punch a Nazi" idiots.

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Here's to hoping both the Nazis and the people out there counter protesting can get their act together and not escalate things.  

When has there ever been a time where "Nazis not escalate things?" (Either in the early 1940's or today?)
They're Nazis!

I find it hilarious you're not also calling out the "Punch a Nazi" idiots.

Would you also like us to criticize and "call out" the US/English/WWII-Allied soldiers who fought against the Nazis in the early 1940's?

Not even remotely the same, dude.

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Here's to hoping both the Nazis and the people out there counter protesting can get their act together and not escalate things.  

When has there ever been a time where "Nazis not escalate things?" (Either in the early 1940's or today?)
They're Nazis!

I find it hilarious you're not also calling out the "Punch a Nazi" idiots.

"Both sides do it!"

You have to be quite morally vacant to unironically argue from that standpoint.

Assaulting someone because you don't like their views is stupid, plain and simple. Not hard to understand. It's terrible no matter who does it.

You don't have any room to talk about someone being morally vacant if you seriously think that's acceptable.

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Here's to hoping both the Nazis and the people out there counter protesting can get their act together and not escalate things.  

When has there ever been a time where "Nazis not escalate things?" (Either in the early 1940's or today?)
They're Nazis!

I find it hilarious you're not also calling out the "Punch a Nazi" idiots.

"Both sides do it!"

You have to be quite morally vacant to unironically argue from that standpoint.

Assaulting someone because you don't like their views is stupid, plain and simple. Not hard to understand.

You don't have any room to talk about someone being morally vacant if you seriously think that's acceptable.

Antifa weren't the ones who murdered Heather Heyer in Charlottesville, and beyond that, Antifa isn't the side that has an ideology premised on racism and violence.  If they incite people with fascistic rhetoric, they should expect anti-fascists to push back.  Anti-fascists aren't going to lie down and allow fascism to gain momentum and legitimacy.

It's absolutely inexcusable that Heather Heyer died, and at no point did I defend the guy who was responsible. But just because someone died doesn't excuse sh*tty behavior from Antifa and their supporters. If you support Nazis, you're scum. If you support Antifa, you're also scum. But you don't deserve to be physically harmed for it.

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Here's to hoping both the Nazis and the people out there counter protesting can get their act together and not escalate things.  

When has there ever been a time where "Nazis not escalate things?" (Either in the early 1940's or today?)
They're Nazis!

I find it hilarious you're not also calling out the "Punch a Nazi" idiots.

"Both sides do it!"

You have to be quite morally vacant to unironically argue from that standpoint.

Assaulting someone because you don't like their views is stupid, plain and simple. Not hard to understand.

You don't have any room to talk about someone being morally vacant if you seriously think that's acceptable.

LOL! Fighting Nazis is "assaulting someone because you don't like their political views"? So the soldiers in the trenches of Europe in WWII shooting at the Germans were "assaulting someone because they don't like their views"?

Fighting in an actual war with real Nazis that were responsible for the deaths of millions =/= punching some alt-right "Nazi" scumbag cause they said awful things.

If you honestly think those two are even remotely the same things, please do yourself a favor and go back to school, visit a Holocaust museum, and watch some videos or read stories from survivors. If you do all those things and still think they're the same, I feel sorry for you.

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If you're calling both antifa supporters and nazis "scum" without distinguishing between the two at all, then you're still making a moral equivalence between both sides, which I think is a cowardly position to take.  One side says they want to violently oppress vulnerable people, and the other...wants to stop that from happening.  Nazis are the inciters, not the other way around.

Just because they say dumb things doesn't make it acceptable to cause them harm, or escalate things to a point where someone is harmed. If they actually make any attempt to round up Jews and other minorities to harm or kill them, by all means, then step in. But until that happens, they have every right to spew their garbage, but you do not have the right to cause them physical harm.

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Here's to hoping both the Nazis and the people out there counter protesting can get their act together and not escalate things.  

When has there ever been a time where "Nazis not escalate things?" (Either in the early 1940's or today?)
They're Nazis!

I find it hilarious you're not also calling out the "Punch a Nazi" idiots.

"Both sides do it!"

You have to be quite morally vacant to unironically argue from that standpoint.

Assaulting someone because you don't like their views is stupid, plain and simple. Not hard to understand.

You don't have any room to talk about someone being morally vacant if you seriously think that's acceptable.

LOL! Fighting Nazis is "assaulting someone because you don't like their political views"? So the soldiers in the trenches of Europe in WWII shooting at the Germans were "assaulting someone because they don't like their views"?

Fighting in an actual war with real Nazis that were responsible for the deaths of millions =/= punching some alt-right "Nazi" scumbag cause they said awful things.

If you honestly think those two are even remotely the same things, please do yourself a favor and go back to school, visit a Holocaust museum, and watch some videos or read stories from survivors. If you do all those things and still think they're the same, I feel sorry for you.

So, wait, fighting Nazis is okay... but only AFTER they come to power and murder millions of innocent people? When they're just drumming up support and openly promising to commit genocide once they get enough supporters, that's just peachy and we should look the other way? Because that's exactly what "awful things" these people are saying. They're advocating genocide.

Bolded the key word there. They are saying dumb sh*t. But they are not actually doing the dumb sh*t.

What they are advocating is absolutely not okay, and at no point have I ever defended the things they are saying. But they have the right to assemble and make fools of themselves when they speak. People who don't like it have every right to publicly disagree with them, their employers have every right to fire them for taking part in it, if they own a business, people have every right to no longer spend money at their establishment, their loved ones have every right to not associate with them. But people do not have the right to physically harm them because they don't like what they are saying.

If someone on their side crosses the line and actually does harm someone, we have laws that ensure they are held accountable for it. There is no need for some Antifa supporter to step in and take it into their own hands.

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As you have indicated, the vast majority of Confederate monuments were erected in the 1910's & 20's when Southern states were enacting Jim Crow laws.
There was also a significant, yet smaller spike in the 1950's & 60's during the Civil Rights movement.

See this graphic on this website (link below), showing the numbers and distribution of monuments over time. The article also points out that:
The chart illustrates upticks in the construction of Confederate monuments on courthouse grounds after the landmark Plessy v. Ferguson case in 1896 upheld state segregation laws. The construction of monuments outside of schools jumped after the 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education ruling, in which the Supreme Court deemed state laws segregating public schools to be unconstitutional.

So you can drop your "leftists want to abolish place and history" shtick.
All the evidence above shows that Southerners weren't really concerned about "history" when erecting these monuments. But instead, it was about using them as symbols of hate and intimidation.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/718507/striking-graphic-reveals-construction-confederate-monuments-peaked-during-jim-crow-civil-rights-eras

Southern states started enacting Jim Crow laws in the late 19th century, though. Plus, as your graph indicates, the largest spike in public Confederate commemoration was already on the decline when the Klan was reformed in the 1910s. If anything, the strongest correlation is with the aging of Civil War veterans and the passage of the Civil War from people's living memory. Which makes perfect sense.

It "makes perfect sense" to Neo-Nazis, Klansmen and white supremacists.

It makes sense to the people whose forefathers bore the brunt of the most destructive war in the history of the United States.

It makes sense to the people whose forefathers' main purpose of fighting was to preserve the act of enslaving other human beings (for money). The fact that they (the South) "bore the brunt" of the American Civil War (versus the North) was both justified and a grace to all humanity.

The vast majority of monuments are depicting their leaders, and not the sheep the leaders employed (and fooled) to fight for them. Their leaders were intelligent (and rich) and knew exactly what their true cause was (and not "State's rights" bulls**t).

Muhhh the South is nothing but evil scum, HP!

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That hilarious moment when people seriously think some dumb, edgy "Nazis" shouting ignorant stuff is the same thing as real Nazis that actually invaded other countries, murdered millions of people, and tortured many more.

If "resistance" morons stopped giving them the time of day, they'd mostly fade away back into irrelevance and continue to be some radical fringe group with no real voice.

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That hilarious moment when people seriously think some dumb, edgy "Nazis" shouting ignorant stuff is the same thing as real Nazis that actually invaded other countries, murdered millions of people, and tortured many more.

You already repeated this a week or two ago (and you lost that argument). Why go there again?

If "resistance" morons stopped giving them the time of day, they'd mostly fade away back into irrelevance and continue to be some radical fringe group with no real voice.

And what about Orange Morons? Should King Orange Moron stop giving them the time of day, by referring to them as "very fine people?"
When the President of the United States gives them name, recognition and cover, that is by far the worst "power" to give these freaks.

To be fair, you think any response to me is me "losing" an argument, so your statement there means absolutely nothing.  

I guess if we are gonna talk about morons, I shouldn't forget the Lime Green fake moderate Californian one, sorry for forgetting to include that one.  

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That hilarious moment when people seriously think some dumb, edgy "Nazis" shouting ignorant stuff is the same thing as real Nazis that actually invaded other countries, murdered millions of people, and tortured many more.

If "resistance" morons stopped giving them the time of day, they'd mostly fade away back into irrelevance and continue to be some radical fringe group with no real voice.

How did they rise to prominence in the first place? Surely it must be because of Hillary.

They weren't talked about as nearly as much until Charlottesville. Had people just let them protest and make fools of themselves, they'd have eventually just moved on, at most becoming some joke on a late night tv show. Counterprotesters are absolutely what caused it to get as bad as it did, and inspired them to go bigger and bolder with their sh*tty demonstrations.

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The atlas deranged right has reached a new low: "my ancestors had it worse than slaves"
Sureeee Jan

Our pro-Confederate Atlas member from Alabama has lost his mind.

Unlike you, at least he can say he has one.