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« on: October 04, 2017, 07:22:21 AM »
« edited: October 04, 2017, 07:26:49 AM by President fhtagn »

Second, we will bar the sale of deadly weapons to criminals, suspected terrorists, and the mentally ill.

So strip someone of their rights without due process?

Using your logic here, if they're so untrustworthy, why not just go ahead and throw them in jail? I mean, it's for the safety of the people, right?

You'd think our AG would have more sense than this.



Edit: It is also worth noting, that your proposals for gun reform would have done nothing to stop what happened in Las Vegas from happening.
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2017, 09:30:44 AM »

Second, we will bar the sale of deadly weapons to criminals, suspected terrorists, and the mentally ill.

So strip someone of their rights without due process?

Using your logic here, if they're so untrustworthy, why not just go ahead and throw them in jail? I mean, it's for the safety of the people, right?

You'd think our AG would have more sense than this.
Meaning persons on the terrorist watch list; I would remind the president that these individuals have already been "stripped" of certain rights because they are considered by national security officials to pose a clear and present danger to the safety of law-abiding citizens. The comparison to sending someone to jail without trial is frankly absurd; not being able to buy an assault rifle is hardly the same thing as serving a prison sentence for a crime one did not commit.

I don't think you realize how easy it is for an average, harmless, law-abiding citizen to accidentally end up on the terrorist watch list. Most of these ways happen to not require any proof of actual wrongdoing,  and often times are not a reliable means of stopping actual terrorists.

So what you are suggesting is potentially taking away someone's rights without any concrete proof that they are actually doing anything wrong, nor have proven they have expressed intent to do anything wrong.
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2017, 12:46:48 PM »


Admittedly this isn't something I'd do blindfolded.

That being said, I actually do support some gun control measures such as background checks and waiting periods, but I will not stand for any attempts at stripping someone's rights for bogus reasons that do nothing to stop mass shootings.

I also actually own a firearm and grew up knowing how to operate them, can the other candidates speaking on this issue say the same?
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