You guys are all SICK, you know that?
Damnit, every kind of animal is better than THAT!
Hm, maybe I should point out that I am being sarcastic...this is my way of channelling my disgust for that line of thinking.
The others are probably serious though, at least Opebo.
I can understand you squeemishness, Gustaf, but my point is someone has to do these hard things on our behalf, or we will be over run. Another way to look at it is our peaceful, Liberal societies are protected by the same thing that has always pertained in the State of Nature - brutal violence.
I am glad to hear that you understand my 'squeamishness', or as we like to say compassion and respect for human life. 
It's simply a matter of differing moral principles.
Gentlemen, there's no need for hysteria, bitterness, or depression.
We don't need napalm or nukes, as this will lead to defeat - not military defeat but the loss of support of the 80% of Iraqis who really DO want us to mop the floor with apostate terrorists like al-Sadr.
America has a great fighting force that has learned a lot from Vietnam - we have basically defeated al-Sadr in Karbala - his militia has packed up and left town after having their all their hideouts destroyed by our tanks.
All we need to do is press on. The Iraqis WILL eventually find freedom compelling, you have to cut them a little slack after being terrorized for the last 25 years. But abandon them? - that we can't afford - if we leave before that country is stable, we've given up a major front in the war against terror. There were casualties and traitors and atrocities during the liberation of Europe 60 years ago as well, but turning around wasn't an option. It's no more of an option now.
