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« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2007, 03:22:47 AM »

We are voting on the amendment to strike Section 3, Clause 3.

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« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2007, 01:06:48 AM »

The amendment passes.
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« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2007, 06:36:04 PM »

Not a Senator, but could someone please post the bill in its present form?

Here you go:

Acceptance of Science Bill

Section 1: Human Sexuality
No funds from the federal government shall go towards any sex education curriculum that promotes any of the following beliefs as based on scientific evidence:
1.) the trait of homosexuality or bisexuality is an entirely conscious choice and/or is strange or unnatural.
2.) the participation in homosexual sex acts is an unnatural act observed only in humans.
3.) the proper use of contraceptive devices including but not limited to condoms is grossly ineffective in preventing pregnancy or sexually transmitted infections.
4.) engaging in sexual activity before marriage with proper precautions is dangerous.
5.) males and females should limit themselves to careers which have historically been associated with masculine and feminine roles, respectively.

Section 2: Origins
No funds from the federal government shall go towards any scientific education curriculum that promotes any of the following beliefs as based on scientific evidence:
1.) the status of biological evolution as a scientific theory is somehow different or set apart from that of other scientific theories such as gravity or relativity.
2.) fossil evidence for biological macroevolution is largely inaccurate or misinterpreted by mainstream scientists, or presents a picture that contradicts with biological evolutionary theory.
3.) radioactive carbon dating is always inaccurate or scientifically unreliable.
4.) the age of the earth is less than ten thousand years.
5.) the origins of the universe and of life on earth are scientifically explained by religious texts or creeds.
6.) the complexity of certain types of life on earth are of such a magnitude that they present valid evidence for that of a higher power or "intelligent designer."
7.) creation theories are testable by the scientific method.
8.) the Second Law of Thermodynamics contradicts the Big Bang.

Section 3: Cannabis
No federal funds shall be directed toward any drug prevention program that disseminates any of the following beliefs, and/or presents them as being established on scientific evidence.
1. Marijuana use fails to alleviate symptoms associated with terminal illness (e.g. cancer).
2. Recreational use of marijuana invariably leads to use of "hard" drugs (the so-called "gateway effect").
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« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2007, 03:05:12 AM »

We are voting on the following amendment
Any school system in a region making use of a voucher system shall be exempt from this Act.



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« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2007, 09:51:39 PM »
« Edited: June 27, 2007, 11:29:12 PM by Ebowed »

The vote on the voucher exemption amendment is 3-4.
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« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2007, 09:53:08 PM »

I propose an amendment to strike the whole text of the bill despite Section 3 and make

Section 1:
Marriage is between a man and a woman

Section 2:
Every man is endowed by his creator with unalienable rights

I am blocking this amendment as frivolous (section 1 violates standing marriage law, as we don't have marriages in Atlasia)
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« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2007, 11:30:55 PM »

I propose an amendment to strike the whole text of the bill despite Section 3 and make

Section 1:
Marriage is between a man and a woman

Section 2:
Every man is endowed by his creator with unalienable rights

I am blocking this amendment as frivolous (section 1 violates standing marriage law, as we don't have marriages in Atlasia)

Ok, then Section 1 reads homosexuality is immoral and unnatural, better?

Still frivolous (section 2 violates Article VI, Clause 1) & thus blocked.
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« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2007, 11:31:44 PM »

The amendment fails.
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« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2007, 04:22:51 PM »


No.  It is still blocked.

I motion for cloture following Sam Spade's amendment.



We are voting on the amendment to strike Section 3, Clause 2.



Nay.  What is the rationale for this?
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« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2007, 04:14:07 PM »


Do you have any particular reason for targeting that clause?
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« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2007, 04:58:26 PM »

The amendment fails.
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« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2007, 03:15:53 AM »

We are voting on an amendment to add the following section
This law is only applicable to schools in Washington D.C. and other federal territories



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« Reply #37 on: July 05, 2007, 05:52:29 PM »

The vote appears to be 4-4-1, that is a tie that goes the VP correct?

Not yet.
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« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2007, 05:58:54 PM »

The vote appears to be 4-4-1, that is a tie that goes the VP correct?

Not yet.

Another reason you should no longer be PPT no offense, we are working with a quorum of nine senators, therefore this is it.  You are purposely stalling so that Jas is the VP tomorrow and not Phil.

You're right, sorry.  I forgot that Colin was absent.
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« Reply #39 on: July 06, 2007, 09:01:50 AM »

There is no prohibition from being acting president & VP at the same time.

Keystone Phil is not entitled to cast a tiebreaking vote after his term ends, although if he does so in the next two hours, it would be valid.
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« Reply #40 on: July 06, 2007, 06:20:18 PM »

I am pretty sure that I was allowed to cast the tie breaker on this amendment. Whenever there is a tie, the PPT alerts me that I have to vote. He didn't do that this time and ignored my PM about whether or not I could vote on this. I'd like an explanation.

I wasn't online when you sent that PM until I posted in here saying you had 2 hours to vote.  I figured since you were reading the thread there was no need to reply saying the same thing in a PM.

Seriously, people, stop trying to look for some genius criminal plan behind everything.
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« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2007, 08:46:01 PM »

Aye.

Let me respond to the concerns of Sen. PBrunsel and also invite the other three Senators to give some sound reasoning for voting against this bill.

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This is absolutely not true.  If the government is to spend money funding education, it has
a.) the right to make determinations about what is or is not appropriate to teach, and more importantly
b.) the responsibility to stop teachers from indoctrinating children into certain belief systems or urban myths.

I could apply all of the things you just said to a bill which would stop children from being taught that two plus two equals five.  This is just an effort to bring some accountability into the school systems.  Also note that in fact, no 'ban' on any of these things being taught has taken place.  Schools wishing to incorporate these things into their cirriculums will simply be required to forgo their federal funding.
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« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2007, 05:32:30 PM »

I am against this bill because not only does it unfairly discriminate against the South

It doesn't specifically target any one region.  If schools which teach these sorts of things are predominantly in the South, that is an unintentional side effect, not an expected result.  The bill itself is totally neutral, at least until you had to find a better excuse to vote against it.
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« Reply #43 on: July 10, 2007, 06:01:29 PM »


This bill had nothing to do with free speech.
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