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Ebowed
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« on: November 30, 2006, 09:23:33 PM »

Well, in a nutshell, I saw no reason why the previous Secretary of External Affairs ought not to have been re-appointed in this capacity. He was doing a fine job Smiley

The only other presidential nominee to ever fail senate confirmation was Mike Naso for Secretary of Defense.  Given some of the people I pushed through onto the Senate during my tenure, all of which were confirmed, this rejection is rather surprising.  Worse yet, Nay votes were cast not because this was a bad nominee but because of unhappiness with the previous Secretary no longer holding the job, despite that person being nominated for something else.

My recommendation to the administration would be to nominate Hugh again.  No reason to play nice with a Senate that is incapable of explaining itself properly.
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2006, 06:05:18 AM »

I don't believe that to be the primary motivation for the outcome.

Well, in that case, I'm sure you can understand why I and others are curious as to what the primary motivation for the outcome was.  The Nay voters don't seem to be united by any common ideological cause.  On one hand we have people like Jas, Ernest, and Colin Wixted -- going by consensus, generally accepted voices of common sense and elder Atlasians who know that they are doing.  Then we have a messy opposition that won't tell us why they voted the way they did.  What have they got to hide?  I'd honestly like to know.

May I also add, it is also unfair to apply Dave's stated reason on the matter to every Senator who voted against the nomination.

This is true, and I was careful not to say as much, although given that several other Senators have yet to comment on why they voted against, there is little else we can do but make assumptions.

Either way I certainly share Al's distaste for what has occurred here.  Voting against a nominee who is even referred to as "second best" is simply unheard of.
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2006, 03:50:38 PM »
« Edited: December 01, 2006, 04:14:26 PM by Porce »

Just like you did the Senate with your most exemplary track record of explaining [not] your veto on a number of Bills

You're getting awfully bitter and defensive.

I don't believe any of my vetoes ever went unexplained, even if some were not explained immediately much to your dislike.  Meanwhile we have a non-unified opposition, edited votes, and all sorts of ridiculous garbage going on here.  Some people are just looking for answers.  The fact that you were a.) being cryptic and b.) resigning from your post as PPT over something so minor only accentuates it.
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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2006, 11:58:30 PM »

So the Senate is Keystone Phil's bitch.  Got it.
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Ebowed
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2006, 12:14:07 AM »

So the Senate is Keystone Phil's bitch.  Got it.

Or I worked to see that he is rejected and stated reasons why he should be. I think it more like Ebowed and Co. are just too busy bitching that their man lost.

Amazing how everyone in favor of hughento can lobby the Senate but I can't.

"Ebowed and Co."?  Who exactly do I have influence over?  I'm not even a registered voter anymore.  Nor did I arrange a backdoor deal with Senators to get them to vote against a nominee who, back to reality for a second, is no worse than any other nominee that the Senate has ever had to deal with.  Your long-lasting feud with Hughento has no bearing on whether or not he can serve well in this position.  Reasonable people can all agree to that.
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