White students riot against racist NJ Sec. of State

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AuH2O,

Anti-white comments by some nutcase do not excuse your racism.

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AuH2O,

Anti-white comments by some nutcase do not excuse your racism.

Notice how you are attacking the poster for racism, when the actual topic of the thread is a racist Sec. of State.  Where does your priorities lie?

I suspect AuH2O is posting this to justify his less-than-progressive views on inter-racial marriage (he believes races shouldn't inter-marry, and he seems to think there are huge differences between races that cannot be reconsiled).  That's all I was attacking.  I realize it was the Sec. of State who said this.  I'm not sure what priorities has to do with it.

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I suspect

AHHH.  Stop right there.  You suspect.  You know, you could be wrong!  Perhaps you're right.  But don't you think you should just give him the benefit of the doubt and actaully address the issue at hand?

Okay, I don't suspect, I'm pretty damn sure.  Have you read the inter-racial marriage thread?  Goldie is almost certainly trying to boost his credibility after a less-than inspiring showing in that thread.

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You're more interested in attacking him and throwing mud at him than to discuss the topic at hand.

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What's there to discuss?  The Sec. of State is a racist nutcase, and so are the kids who said "All the way with the KKK!"  Do you see me disagreeing?

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What's there to discuss?  The Sec. of State is a racist nutcase, and so are the kids who said "All the way with the KKK!"  Do you see me disagreeing?

Maybe you should keep quiet then, if you have nothing useful to say.

I had something useful to say and I said it.

However, I will reciprocate your comment.

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Is there a reason you are now a Libertarian from West Virginia, BTW?

Because it's a cool-looking avatar

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Thanks Richius.

Humorously, Ebowed does indeed miss the entire point. It isn't *good* what happened, but it is PREDICTABLE. If you peddle nonsense like Ebowed does, guess what, there's going to be a reaction.

This idiot Thomas was just a more important Ebowed, peddling nonsense to teenagers, who decided they aren't interested in primitive and offensive fairy tales about "diversity."

When have I ever made any anti-white comments?  Does it bother you that I myself am white (Italian-American for your information)?

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Thanks Richius.

Humorously, Ebowed does indeed miss the entire point. It isn't *good* what happened, but it is PREDICTABLE. If you peddle nonsense like Ebowed does, guess what, there's going to be a reaction.

This idiot Thomas was just a more important Ebowed, peddling nonsense to teenagers, who decided they aren't interested in primitive and offensive fairy tales about "diversity."

When have I ever made any anti-white comments?  Does it bother you that I myself am white (Italian-American for your information)?

You may be white, but you're a Democrat.  You have a mental disorder whereby you suffer from an inferiority complex.

I'm not the average Democrat, much like you're not the average Republican (you're a hell of a lot more extreme, partisan, and annoying than most Republicans).  But never mind that, Democrat = inferiority complex?  I'm tempted to not even respond to what you have to say now, but I will forge on...

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No, I don't.  "Anyone but a white male"?  I am a white male.

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Oh wow.  Nothing wrong with racism.  Tell me, oh master, which races are better than the others?

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That isn't racism, dumbass, that's just a sports team that is disproportionately in favor of one race.  Unless these teams ONLY accept blacks/Asians, there isn't anything wrong with it, nor is it racism.

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I don't believe any of that, you racist scumbag.  White males are equal to everyone else, and I don't think they need any punishing.  You're a racist of the worst kind, and besides that: you got mad at me for assuming something?  Talk about a double standard.

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I don't care what you are. You can be a Martian for all I care-- you're still a fool.

Did it ever dawn on you that people like Sec. Thomas CREATE the "racism" that upsets you so?

So let's blame Sec. Thomas for your racism, huh?

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That black friends argument is so old.

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You must not go around telling people that it's not okay for your sister to date black men, then.

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Yes, you are racist, because you separate the races and say they cannot inter-marry.  Just like the Ku Klux Klan.

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Nothing wrong with a team accepting only one race. Would you outlaw it, by the way?

I think it's definitely wrong and immoral for teams to accept people of only one race, but I would not outlaw it, no.  That's up to the sports teams if they want to be racists.

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Oops, you thought you know more about me than I do? hahahahha

The "black friends" argument isn't an argument, it's reality. I don't want harm to come to black people. I actually want them to survive, which cannot happen if they all intermarry.

You support the destruction of all races, thus you are racist. Very simple.

Oh, this is classic.  First of all, as I have made clear, I do not believe in race in the first place, so the "destruction of all races" is complete and utter bullfeathers.  I'm not racist.  Your argument is just so flawed it's unbelievable.  You're one of those people who support "separate but equal" stuff aren't you?  "I love the black people, I don't want them to be harmed, just make sure they leave me alone!!"  Get over it.  Black people are just as human as you are, and there's no point in "preserving their race," which is hardly preserved considering that they're African-Americans, not Africans, which would be different, by your highly scientific genetic standards, unless you were just making that up while really thinking that all black people are the exact same genetically and thus should be seperated from whites.

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Absolutely not.  The government just shouldn't go around poking its head in sports teams, however if a civil lawsuit came up I would agree with the person who wants to be in the team.

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No, I don't.  "Anyone but a white male"?  I am a white male.

Yeah, hence the mental disorder.

But I don't believe in an "anyone but white male" disorder.  So there is no mental disorder.

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Thats like asking me which kind of dog is better than which one.  What for?  For athletics?  Probably blacks.  For resistance to sunburns?  Definitely blacks.  There is no absolute.  This is not a white or black case, but there is a lot of gray area.  There is no master race.  And there is no "better" race overall.  There is, however, advantages of certain skin colors.

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So let's segregate them?  Great logic, buddy.

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That isn't racism, dumbass, that's just a sports team that is disproportionately in favor of one race.  Unless these teams ONLY accept blacks/Asians, there isn't anything wrong with it, nor is it racism.[/quote]
It adheres to what the dictionary defines as racism, so I'll believe it.  You're discriminating based on race, and that is racism.  Would you like an immigrant to teach you your own lagnauge?

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Uh, you're not being specific enough.  As I stated, a black team is only racist if it says that whites can't join it.  I don't understand the last sentence, however.  Would I like an immigrant to teach me English?  Huh?

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I don't believe any of that, you racist scumbag.[/quote]
Here we go again with the name calling.

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"Mental disorder"?  "Inferior complex"?  Talk about name calling.  I didn't make any personal pledge against name calling, so if you're attempting to say I'm a hypocrite than you may as well end right there.

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I lost no arguments.  If anything, nobody lost any arguments yet, because the thread is not over.

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I'll celebrate diversity by letting people of different "races" talk to each other, marry each other, and go to school together, rather than say "You can't associate with me because your skin is too dark!"  "Open your eyes"?  How about you open your eyes and stop trying to defend racists before becoming one yourself?

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You are doing an excellent job in hiding that opinion.

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I openly stated it.  You may continue to assume I hate white males, but that would make you an idiot.

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I'm racist?  Lol... my last boyfriend was black.  Not only am I not a racist, but I'm not a sexist either.  I'm an equal opportunity dater, both gender and race wise.  Are you one too?

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You're certainly racist, or at least have strands of it, when you say "RACISM CAN BE GOOD."  'Equal oppurtunity dating' has nothing to do with broad race arguments, but thanks for bringing personal life into the debate.  I am a straight person, hence, I am not attracted to other males, however I would freely date women of any race.  But again, personal politics.  It was very unwise to bring it into the debate.  Note that I never accused you of being sexist, however you accused me of being sexist, at least partially, by saying that I feel white males are inferior and must be punished.

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Oh, this is classic.  First of all, as I have made clear, I do not believe in race in the first place

Then pardon me for asking such a trivial question, but, if you don't believe in race, how can you believe in racism?  Isn't that like saying "I don't believe that plants exist, but I believe in growing wheat?"

Saying I don't believe in race but I do believe that racism exists is not contradictory.  The racism of other people is evident, and  I admit that it exists, however I myself do not believe there is such a thing as "race," but rather, "culture."

Your analogy to wheat does your argument no justice.  Racism is a philosophy which I do not agree with; race is a tool, on which racism is based, to seperate humans that I believe should not exist.  They are not the same thing.

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Riddle me this Percy: why do Kenyans win every major marathon?

Their "culture?"

LOL

Kenyan athletes could have a better diet than athletes of other "races," which inevitably makes them healthier.  Kenyans on average also have better muscles, but Pygmies don't, however both are African; I suppose we should divide Kenyans and Pygmies into seperate races now.  No, they can't inter-marry now.  We've made progress!

I love how you didn't respond to anything else in the post.

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Keep telling yourself that, and you may actually believe it...  Oh wait...

It is you who keeps telling yourself that I am anti-white male.

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You talked about differences in skin colors, as if they actually meant anything.  My response to that section was in jest.

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See above

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That's a matter of personal opinion, and we will have to agree to disagree.

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Thanks, but no thanks, "Where does your priorities lie?"

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I agree there were none to loose, but I had one to lose, and I did not lose it.

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I'm implied that you either are a racist or are becoming one throughout my posts, and I stand by those statements.  I do believe that your racist remarks may have been more to defend a fellow Republican than anything else.

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I stated that I do believe racism exists, but I don't agree with the philosophy behind it.  Clearly racism exists.

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I knew that was coming.  Good thing it makes your argument look worse.

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That isn't the same thing.  There is a clear consensus that there are two types of genders; nobody can seem to agree on a clear decision of just how many races there are.

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We're at a total loss of words at your "race" doesn't exist and how you don't believe in "race" but "racism" exists because "racism" is discriminating against, ... err, ... ... ??  ...__?

What's with all this "we" stuff?  I honestly wouldn't be surprised if you and Goldie were the same people.  That would explain a lot.

Racism exists because it is a philosophy that many people use to discriminate against people that they think are inferior.  I PERSONALLY DO NOT AGREE WITH IT.  See how this works?

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Rather than reply section-by-section to the remaining posts, I'll just finish my thoughts in numbered form:

1.) I find it rather coincidental that I'm being condemned as a anti-male sexist (rather jestfully, I hope), when, in abortion threads, people have said that I hate women.

2.) I do not have an anti-white male bias.  Why, my father is a white male, as are both of my grandfathers (both of whom are deceased).

3.) There are differences between people, I concede this, though I never said it was not so.  I just do not find them significant enough to classify them into seperate groups.  That's all there is to it.

4.) If I, as heterosexual, am sexist, so is everyone else who is not a bisexual.

5.) Believing in race is a philosophy, yes, just as believing that all humans are equal and shouldn't be seperated into different groups because their differences are significant is also a philosophy.

6.) Preferring one sex to the other does not make a person sexist, and neither does preferring a "race" make one racist.  I apologize for saying that both of you are racists.  However, I do not believe that prohibiting inter-racial marriage is fair and it should always be legal.  (In my ideal world, the government would have nothing to do with marriage in the first place.  That would clean up this gay marriage issue.)

7.) I believe it is a racist comment to say that marrying or dating a black man is a "good way" to get AIDS.  (This one belongs in the other thread.)

8.) That is all.  Also, NO WHITE MALE BIAS.  This one bugs me to no end.  I have never been accused of hating white males before and it thoroughly perplexes me how I could be accused of this.

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1) Ebowed is pretty brilliant-- he shockingly revealed his father was MALE. lol

When your twin Richius keeps going on and on about how I hate white males, it's a point that may need to be said.

Either way, I take back my apology to you.  All negative comments I have made about you stand.

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1) Ebowed is pretty brilliant-- he shockingly revealed his father was MALE. lol

When your twin Richius keeps going on and on about how I hate white males, it's a point that may need to be said.

Either way, I take back my apology to you.  All negative comments I have made about you stand.

I never saw an apology. But even if you did apologize, why should I care? If a dog barks at me, do I expect an apology? No.

You're a troll.

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And you're an idiot. I'll take troll for $500 Alex...

Oh, I'm the idiot?  I focus your attention to the quote in my signature.

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Actually that's not a quote, it's two comments taken out of context and spliced together, which is actually plaigarism except of course this is a mere internet forum.

This is because of a 300 character limit in the signatures.  The quotes are not taken out of context, because they are complete sentences and were not sarcasm, jokes, or examples to things you disagree with.  The only sence in which they are 'spliced together' is the fact that they are in the same box quote, but they are, in fact, seperated, which you would notice if you had the slightest bit of intelligence.  And if it's plaigarism quoting posts at all may as well be banned.

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Let me know what your IQ is.  Mine is 121, and if yours is higher then I'll concede on this point, though I never claimed to have a higher IQ than you; it was merely an axe you used to grind my posts when you had nothing worthwhile to say.

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Based on the quote, it appears the statements were made with some relation to each other. They were not. I KNOW that, but that's not the way it appears. In other words, dishonesty on your part.

If you can't use a legitimate quote, then either don't do it, or admit you basically are misquoting me.

I think it's no different than comparing what the ACLU had to say about school vouchers and federal funding for abortion: taking two quotes that clearly contradict each other and comparing them.  But at your request I have edited my signature.

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I'm not sure I understand your point on the ACLU (I didn't quote them??), but thank you.

I was referring to a thread I created today in this same forum (see "Do you hate the ACLU?").

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4.) If I, as heterosexual, am sexist, so is everyone else who is not a bisexual.

This ranks up there with the funniest thing ever said on this forum.

Oh?  I believe the fact that being a heterosexual means being labelled a sexist is quite ridiculous, so you'll have to excuse my statement.

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4.) If I, as heterosexual, am sexist, so is everyone else who is not a bisexual.

This ranks up there with the funniest thing ever said on this forum.

Oh?  I believe the fact that being a heterosexual means being labelled a sexist is quite ridiculous, so you'll have to excuse my statement.

It is amazing how hypocritical you are.  You want to give yourself the right to have a preference for certain humans (women), but you yell and scream at AuH2O if he wants the same courtesy from you: the right to have a preference for certain humans (whites?).

You're nothing but a wacko sexist by your own standards, if you call AuH2O a racist for doing EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

Dude, the argument was like... over.