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Koharu
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« on: February 15, 2018, 11:04:06 PM »

I have completely lost hope that anything will happen on this issue, even though the majority of Americans want some sort of change. For heaven's sake, even the bump-stock ban that Republicans and the NRA seemed to support after Las Vegas went absolutely nowhere. What else can we do? I feel powerless and hopeless.
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Koharu
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2018, 08:19:55 AM »

Guns are a dangerous liability. Toddlers kill more people in the United States than foreign terrorists. Having teachers armed? Be prepared for more of this, only with injuries and death: http://abcnews.go.com/US/minnesota-3rd-grader-fires-police-officers-gun-school/story?id=52866888

A firearm in a home is more likely to be used against you than to defend you.

And you know what? I'd rather let a burglar take my stuff than murder him. I have insurance. Items can be replaced. That life cannot. And the actual lives of children being shot up at school who now are dead are worth a hell of a lot more than my TV in the very unlikely and theoretical situation of a burglary.
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Koharu
jphp
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2018, 09:58:42 AM »
« Edited: February 16, 2018, 10:00:26 AM by jphp »

Guns are a dangerous liability. Toddlers kill more people in the United States than foreign terrorists. Having teachers armed? Be prepared for more of this, only with injuries and death: http://abcnews.go.com/US/minnesota-3rd-grader-fires-police-officers-gun-school/story?id=52866888

A firearm in a home is more likely to be used against you than to defend you.

And you know what? I'd rather let a burglar take my stuff than murder him. I have insurance. Items can be replaced. That life cannot. And the actual lives of children being shot up at school who now are dead are worth a hell of a lot more than my TV in the very unlikely and theoretical situation of a burglary.

Who says he wants your stuff. Maybe he wants to rape your wife or daughter... you don’t know what his motive is

I'm a woman. I know that's a possibility. A gun isn't going to save me. In fact, it's more likely to be used against me.
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Koharu
jphp
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Posts: 2,646
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Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.35

« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2018, 01:44:07 PM »

Guns are a dangerous liability. Toddlers kill more people in the United States than foreign terrorists. Having teachers armed? Be prepared for more of this, only with injuries and death: http://abcnews.go.com/US/minnesota-3rd-grader-fires-police-officers-gun-school/story?id=52866888

A firearm in a home is more likely to be used against you than to defend you.

And you know what? I'd rather let a burglar take my stuff than murder him. I have insurance. Items can be replaced. That life cannot. And the actual lives of children being shot up at school who now are dead are worth a hell of a lot more than my TV in the very unlikely and theoretical situation of a burglary.

Who says he wants your stuff. Maybe he wants to rape your wife or daughter... you don’t know what his motive is

I'm a woman. I know that's a possibility. A gun isn't going to save me. In fact, it's more likely to be used against me.

Wouldn’t you rather be able to hurt, kill, or atleast scare the guy away? Anyone who says they’d rather be raped than shoot the rapist is whack

The lack of critical thinking skills here is amazing. No, I will not shoot someone, even in that circumstance. There are ways to hurt someone or escape from them that do not involve a gun, but human instinct in these situations is quite often to freeze up, and no gun will help with that. Add in the fact that the gun is more likely to be used against me than it is to save my life... nope. Not going to let your fear-mongering be the excuse for why guns should be easily available.
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Koharu
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2018, 03:10:48 PM »

I think a lot of people are missing the point. Guns are the bulk of the problem. I say this as someone who loves to go with friends or relatives to the range. Shooting is great, even cathartic. I think that the Second Amendment ought to stay intact as it is.

But there needs to be more regulation. When this is how law enforcement traces guns used in crimes, when we block the CDC from researching gun violence, when we ignore the problem and deflect, deflect, deflect...we're doing nothing to address the issue. Planting our heads in the sand is a surefire way to get nothing done.

It's not just mass shootings, either. Gun crime is rampant across this country, in disparate localities and different communities. Are we to believe that this is simply the cost of doing business? Are we really going to ignore the issue staring us in the face?

There are measures that can be taken to reduce gun violence. Gun control is necessary. We needn't abolish the Second Amendment or confiscate all firearms to fix the problem; we just need to be honest with ourselves and realize that guns are part of problem.
Precisely.
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