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Dr. Arch
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« on: January 15, 2017, 03:42:33 PM »

There's so much insane stuff going on here I'm not even sure where to begin.

1. This article was published by Breitbart, which should be sufficient to discredit it

2. It was written by the ex-Congressman Tom Tancredo, a right-wing fanatic

3. There was hardly any detail or actual analysis of this supposed left-wing indoctrination in the article, merely Tancredo ranting about how awful and powerful the left wing social justice advocates have supposedly become

4. The article cites the NAS, which is a conservative Republican organization formed in opposition to the mainstream of higher education and multiculturalism, whose founder became right-wing due to African American riots

5. It's funny that you believe, simply because those in higher education disagree with your perspective, that they must be the uninformed ones. These are professionals, highly educated in their fields, and significantly more knowledgeable than you, me, or Tancredo on these topics; the fact that all these highly educated people strongly disagree with your perspective may not indicate some conspiracy, but that you're misinformed and wrong

6. What's wrong with teaching students the truth about America's government and our nation's history? Yes, our founders were extremely hypocritical when they wrote "all men are created equal" while they had African Americans bound in slavery, countless European immigrants weren't viewed as White because they weren't British, and anyone who wasn't a British, land owning male was disenfranchised. Our government has repeatedly engaged in discrimination (slavery, forced removals of Native Americans, Jim Crow and segregation, internment of Japanese, immigration restrictions passed on the grounds of Northern European supremacy lasting until 1965, anti-miscegenation laws, criminalization of homosexuality until only a little over a decade ago, systemic police violence and harassment of African Americans, underfunding of lower class schools, talk of targeting a specific religious minority for exclusion and targeted surveillance even in 2016, forced sterilization of the poor and mentally ill lasting until the 1970s, disproportionate representation of privileged groups in positions of wealth and power with disproportionate representation of the underprivileged in prison and poverty, and so on). Are those things not real? Did they not happen? Were they not perpetrated by a government which claimed to support "all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with equal rights"? Or am I just making all that up?

7. To be a good citizen is to challenge our government and society's norms which defy that proclamation of human equality when it falls short of the mark. It's to not blindly accept and worship our often hypocritical and faulty leaders who habitually excuses and justified their violations of those truths in the Declaration of Independence. To be civically engaged and a good American is to help our country live up to those ideals, not close our eyes and ears to pretend like nothing bad ever happened or is happening. It's also to accept that some of us have privilege due to our race, ethnicity, religion, gender, sexuality, gender identity, country of origin, and socioeconomic class. Only by acknowledging this privilege can we understand the plight of others not as fortunate as those of us with privilege, both historically and presently, and begin to right those wrongs.

Great speech but just because you aren't disadvantaged doesn't mean you are privileged. Privileged are those who are in the top 2%, making $250k+ plus a year or went to the finest private schools. You can't tell 41 year old Joe Schmoe Associates Degree making $42,200 a year in Dayton, Ohio that he is "privileged".
He has the privilege of being a white man.  One who doesn't have to fear being killed by the police when under arrest for even minor offences.  And as a man, his opinion is more valued than that of a woman. He has a ton of privilege.

Do you hate being a white man? Are you a white guilt person? Minorities need to take more responsibility. Blaming the whites for everything is getting old. America needs to come together as a WHOLE to fix these problems, regardless of who is in charge.

What makes you think I'm a white man? How do you know I'm not an African American man or a Hispanic woman? I don't recall having ever stated by race or gender on this forum. And just as you say minorities need to take more responsibility, I'll say people with privilege need to acknowledge their privilege and help work to decrease inequalities in our society for everyone's benefit. Not just say "what's in the past is history, move on."
Giving unqualified minorities jobs will not help society, either.

You mean like Carson?
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Dr. Arch
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2017, 08:25:48 PM »

This sort of whining is becoming incredibly tiresome. Liberal this, left wing that. Give it a rest.
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