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Frodo
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« on: May 09, 2009, 12:20:29 PM »

Does anyone here thinks we will eventually need to militarily intervene in Pakistan, perhaps with a full-fledged invasion when Islamabad falls into the hands of the Taliban/Al Qaeda?
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Al Qaeda's Global Base Is Pakistan, Says Petraeus;
U.S. Central Command Chief Says Group Has Shifted Operations There, While Afghani Taliban Plan 'Surge' of Their Own


By YOCHI J. DREAZEN

WASHINGTON -- Senior leaders of al Qaeda are using sanctuaries in Pakistan's lawless frontier regions to plan new terror attacks and funnel money, manpower and guidance to affiliates around the world, according to a top American military commander.

Gen. David Petraeus, who oversees the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, said in an interview that Pakistan has become the nerve center of al Qaeda's global operations, allowing the terror group to re-establish its organizational structure and build stronger ties to al Qaeda offshoots in Iraq, Yemen, Somalia, North Africa and parts of Europe.

The comments underscore a growing U.S. belief that Pakistan has displaced Afghanistan as al Qaeda's main stronghold. "It is the headquarters of the al Qaeda senior leadership," said the general, who took the helm of the military's Central Command last fall.

In the interview, Gen. Petraeus also warned of difficult months ahead in Afghanistan, saying Taliban militants are moving weapons and forces into areas where the U.S. is adding troops, planning a "surge" of their own to counter the U.S. plan.

The commander said the U.S. had intelligence showing that the Taliban were deploying new fighters to southern Afghanistan, appointing new local commanders, and prepositioning weapons and other supplies.

"We have every expectation that the Taliban will fight to retain the sanctuaries and safe havens that they've been able to establish," he said.
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2009, 12:54:48 PM »

Islamabad wont fall into Taliban hands however i could still see military intervention but i hope not.

You have a lot of faith in the Pakistani military, more so than I do (which is none at all). 
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2009, 02:41:32 PM »

Islamabad wont fall into Taliban hands however i could still see military intervention but i hope not.

You have a lot of faith in the Pakistani military, more so than I do (which is none at all). 
you have too much faith in the Taliban, they aren't cable of defeating the Pakistani military on ground that is not favorable to them, the Pakistani military isn't competent but that does not make them incapable of defending the capital of Pakistan from a bunch of ragtag warriors look at Peshawar for instance yes its becoming a haven for Taliban and they have alot of influence in the city, but the Taliban still don't control the city militarily and that city lies right on the edge of Taliban controlled area.

The Pakistani army may be militarily capable of defending the capital against the Taliban, but I have doubts on whether they really want to.  Many in the Pakistani military (and/or their families) are sympathetic to the aims of the Taliban, and are generally unwilling to turn their weapons on fellow Muslims -in fact, there have been a number of desertions since the government has again decided to fight against them.  Who is to say that a critical mass of Pakistani soldiers won't suddenly decide to turn their guns against their government and join forces with the Taliban?
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2009, 10:34:07 PM »

Islamabad wont fall into Taliban hands however i could still see military intervention but i hope not.

You have a lot of faith in the Pakistani military, more so than I do (which is none at all). 

Likewise here.  If Islamabad ever does fall, then we need to be there in <24 hours to take the Taliban out.

Our more important priority would be to secure the nuclear weapons and materials which, from what I heard, are based primarily in eastern Pakistan (Punjab, Sindh). 
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