PBS Milwaukee, WI Democratic debate @9pm ET **live commentary thread**

[Frodo]

Bernie's closing statement goes to the core of his political philosophy.

Hillary's is just a list of policy positions.

One of the things that stuck with me from the 2008 campaign was Obama's constant reinforcement that, it's not about experience, or about what a person is promising you. It's about judgment, about where a person was when it counted. I'll always keep that in mind in campaigns going forward for the rest of my life. I trust Bernie's judgment, and because of many things from Hillary (her vote on Iraq being one) I can never trust her judgment. Ever.

His philosophy may not matter to Beet, but it matters to me.

Obama never came off as ignorant as foreign policy as Sanders does. Judgment works in more than one way. Sanders would definitely be capable of making major foreign policy errors. One vote doesn't mean that he is qualified to be in Commander in Chief.

If he wins the nomination, his lack of foreign policy chops will be a major problem.

Like Jimmy Carter in 1976.  

Jimmy Carter was great on foreign policy.

When you do actual research on him, yes somewhat, which is why upon reflection I deleted my original post.

Though, that's not how history remembers him.    

[Frodo]

Hillary has gone raging banshee. It's official.

Ah yes, we have one candidate literally red-in-the-face, constantly shouting himself hoarse, hands waving all over the place, and the minute Hillary actually gets forceful in tone it's her that's the raging banshee.

Passion and Panic Mode are not one and the same, ClarkO

So it's 'passion' if it's coming from a man, but if it is coming from a woman it's a sign of 'panic'.  

Why don't you come out in the open, and accuse her of being 'shrill' why you're at it?  

[Frodo]

Exactly - this is such a stupid position for the Hillary campaign to take. The only way she's getting legislation through a Republican congress is if she goes Bill Clinton on them and starts signing off on right-wing legislation.

Which is a distinct possibility.

Yup. I am increasingly starting to fear that a Hillary victory would bring us back to the nightmarish dystopia that the late 1990s-early 2000s period was for the left. The only way we can avoid that is if grassroots progressive never once stop holding her feet on fire. That's why Bernie's campaign will do a lot of good even if he doesn't win.

You do what you can with a Republican Congress.  If you want her to do more for the progressive cause, then give her a Democratic Congress.