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« on: May 27, 2014, 10:09:47 PM »

Will this have any effect on overall support for single-payer health care, especially considering that Veterans Affairs healthcare is essentially single-payer? 
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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2014, 11:20:27 PM »

Will this have any effect on overall support for single-payer health care, especially considering that Veterans Affairs healthcare is essentially single-payer?  

Zero, since single payer in America is a far off fantasy that will outlive the VA problem if and when it ever gets considered.

And it will likely remain a fantasy of True Leftists -here is yet another scandal involving government-run health care:

As tribal health care woes mount, feds get blame

By MATTHEW BROWN

BILLINGS, Mont. (AP) — Misdiagnosed illnesses, denied payments and a shortage of trained medical personnel in government-run clinics are wrecking the federal health care system for Native Americans, tribal leaders said Tuesday as they pressed officials to overhaul a system beset with problems.

With the head of the Indian Health Service listening on, representatives of seven Montana and Wyoming reservations delivered a litany of health care woes suffered by their members during a U.S. Senate Indian Affairs Committee field hearing in Billings.

They described an agency compromised by a bloated bureaucracy and unable to fulfill its core duty to provide health care for more than 2 million American Indians and Alaska Natives.

"All too often, tribal members complain of ailments but get sent home from the Indian Health Service with cough medicine or pain killers. Later we learn the situation is much more serious, like cancer," said A.T. "Rusty" Stafne, chairman of the Assiniboine and Sioux Tribes of northeast Montana's Fort Peck Indian Reservation.
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2014, 11:28:31 PM »

How about all the scandals involving private for-profit health care firms? These scandals nearly killed me.

Before or after the ACA?  I think it should be well established by now that neither a purely for-profit nor government-run single-payer health care system is the answer.  
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2014, 11:32:38 PM »


Before. And it didn't improve until the ACA was enacted.

Then you and I are in agreement -and it is well in our interest to have the ACA evolve into something resembling the Bismarck model so that we could avoid the pitfalls of either extreme. 
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2014, 11:37:56 PM »


Before. And it didn't improve until the ACA was enacted.

Then you and I are in agreement -and it is well in our interest to have the ACA evolve into something resembling the Bismarck model so that we could avoid the pitfalls of either extreme. 

I think it's pretty clear that single payer would be the best. Most of the world already has single payer, and they don't have people needlessly dying over lack of medical care.


The unfortunates with Veterans Affairs and the Indian Health Service beg to differ. 
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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2014, 11:47:17 PM »

The unfortunates with Veterans Affairs and the Indian Health Service beg to differ.  

Then how come other places with single payer aren't having this problem?

I don't know -but given these two examples, I don't trust government to create a purely government-run single-payer system that avoids these problems.  Especially ours.  I don't trust private industry entirely either, which is why I favor an approach that balances out the two.  It seems to have worked well in Germany and Switzerland.    
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2014, 08:03:23 PM »

I wonder how this will affect the Congressional races. Are there any states with particularly high veteran populations?

In the South you mean, where we are most vulnerable?  Besides the biggies (Texas and Florida), Virginia, North Carolina, and Georgia also come to mind.      
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2014, 09:41:50 PM »

I wonder how this will affect the Congressional races. Are there any states with particularly high veteran populations?

In the South you mean, where we are most vulnerable?  Besides the biggies (Texas and Florida), Virginia, North Carolina, and Georgia also come to mind.      
So this could be dangerous for Kay Hagan in particular?

As well as Jason Carter and Michelle Nunn if Republicans succeed in portraying this as a primarily Democratic scandal. 
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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2014, 04:14:39 PM »
« Edited: June 01, 2014, 09:53:20 PM by True Federalist »

Many Veterans Praise Care, but All Hate the Wait

By ABBY GOODNOUGH
MAY 31, 2014


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