OH: More Money Stuff (August)

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Disgraced AG Marc Dann vaguely leaves the door open to running again, now that his law license has been re-instated, though its unlikely the party would have him back.

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Dayton billionaire Clayton Mathile has donated $1 mil to Husted's PAC.

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So has the door completly closed on any chance of Nina Turner 2018?

The door was never opened.

This. Nina could never get elected statewide. Not even in a primary. Especially not after 2016. And most Ohio Bernie people I know agree.

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The Plain Dealer had a really good, albeit somewhat long, article on the political and economic impact of automation in Ohio. An insightful read for anyone interested.

Also, the Republicans have set a time and date for their first debate. The date of the actual primary is not yet set, but we are just two weeks away from Cordray's alleged launch date.

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The Plain Dealer had a really good, albeit somewhat long, article on the political and economic impact of automation in Ohio. An insightful read for anyone interested.

Also, the Republicans have set a time and date for their first debate. The date of the actual primary is not yet set, but we are just two weeks away from Cordray's alleged launch date.

the primary is May 8th 2018. It is set by law

Do you know why this cycle is May, but last cyle was March?

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Also, the Republicans have set a time and date for their first debate. The date of the actual primary is not yet set, but we are just two weeks away from Cordray's alleged launch date.

Ooooh! Source please?

It is widely expected Cordray will announce his intentions at a Labor Day event in Cincinnati, where he is  scheduled as a main speaker.

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I'm still not wholly conviced Cordray does run. And even if he does, there's a small chance he wouldn't actually clear the field and win. Cordray is more popular with national Democrats than he is with the ODP.

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The reason Sutton would get out is one you just alluded to: her fundraising. Sutton's showing was lackluster because she's the one who benefits most if Cordray's not in, being the closest to him, ideologically speaking. If Cordray is in, Sutton should run to take back her old Congressional district; Whaley should position herself to run for LtG; Pillich should go back to Hamilton County to run for Commissioner so Portune can run for Congress against Chabot without fear of losing Democratic control; and Schiavoni should stay in, having no other real options ... Even if it's a bit of a suicide mission.

The only people I know excited about Sutton's candidacy are mainline democrats living in in the Cuyahoga collar counties. But when you consider how of the primary is inside baseball, that shouldn't hurt her too bad. Given Pillich's un characteristically strong, small dollar fundraising, I think we may all be surprised by her end showing, assuming Cordray doesn't get in.

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Schiavoni has nothing else to run for. As he said, it's Governor or Ryan's seat. Dettelbach would probably beat him in the AG primary -- he out raised all the Gubernatorial candidates and would likely get an Obama endorsement. His only option is Treasurer, really, where we still don't have a candidate.

Maybe I misread Pillich's fundraising, but my understanding was her small dollar donors contributed from across the state, just not outside of it. I wouldn't call that localized. She's the closest to running as an insurgent.

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I guess Pillich could run against Chabot if Portune skips it.

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I disagree, but the point is largely moot because he shouldn't drop down the ticket given his past statements.

The surprising strength of Pillich's haul shouldn't be underestimated. Everyone thought she was going to come in dead last, but she came out swinging. Grass roots support is going to be pivotal. I do hope she's on the ticket in some way, if only to promote better geographic diversity.

Cordray from Columbus for Governor, Whaley from Dayton for Lieutenant Governor, Dettelbach from Cleveland for Attorney General, Clyde from Kent for Secretary of State, Space from Dover for Auditor, and Pillich from Cincinnati for Treasurer would be a strong line up. So long as the ticket doesn't repeat Strickland's fatal flaw and pays NEOH the attention it deserves.

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Just noticed Cinci Mayor John Cranley endorsed Nan Whaley on Friday. Probably not that good for Whaley, TBH.

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So has the door completly closed on any chance of Nina Turner 2018?

The door was never opened.

This. Nina could never get elected statewide. Not even in a primary. Especially not after 2016. And most Ohio Bernie people I know agree.

Is she unpopular in Ohio? If so why?

Way too far to the left. Sherrod's only electable because he's been around forever and has a very good personal brand. Nina tanked her brand even within the party after she very seriously considered taking the VP slot for Stein. The only Ohio supporters she has left in Ohio are the most hardcore Berniecrats, and Bernie was never popular here because he too was way too far to the left for the state. (And Brown endorsed Hillary.)

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Turns out Kasich has been working on a bipartisan healthcare plan with Gov. Hickenlooper of Colorado. They hope to present it to the Senate as soon as next week. This comes at something of a politically odd time for Kasich, as the State Senate just voted to override six of his eleven vetos to the budget.

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A lot of little interesting things out today.

Cordray had an op-ed in the New York Times; Cleveland City Councilman Jeff Johnson is working on a 2018 ballot initiative for a $15 minimum wage; Yvette Simpson has earned the endorsement of former Cincinnati Mayor Mark Mallory, Cranley is screwed; and Dettelbach has earned the endorsement of all 4 of Ohio's Democratic Congressman, Schiavoni would put them all in an odd spot were he to drop down to run for AG.

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I'm hearing Leland has ruled out running for Treasurer. A real damn shame.

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I'm hearing Leland has ruled out running for Treasurer. A real damn shame.

F***

Same, really. I'm just glad we've fielded credible candidates in both the down-ticket apportionment board positions. I suppose he could still be Sutton or Whaley's Lieutenant Governor candidate since they need to file with someone.

There's also now, evidently, polling for Cordray/Beatty, which seems like an awful idea, given its Columbus-centric nature.

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I'm hearing Leland has ruled out running for Treasurer. A real damn shame.

F***

Same, really. I'm just glad we've fielded credible candidates in both the down-ticket apportionment board positions. I suppose he could still be Sutton or Whaley's Lieutenant Governor candidate since they need to file with someone.

There's also now, evidently, polling for Cordray/Beatty, which seems like an awful idea, given its Columbus-centric nature.

Beatty? They are really desperate to have a black LG, that's a weak ticket.

Well, specifically, a Black woman. Though I agree, it's weak. I get the impetus, though, since it looks like the only Black candidate on the ticket is going to the candidate for Treasurer. (The failed Cinci Mayoral candidate.)

In Other News: The Springer rumor mills keep chugging away, with Springer appearing at a Labor Day event in support of Fight For Fifteen; frmr Gov. Dick Celeste's son has joined Sutton's campaign as a co-chair; and frmr State Senator Lou Gentile has landed at Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease, where he was welcomed by frmr State Senate Pres. Tome Niehouse. Vorys is the same law firm frmr Congressman Zack Space landed at after beeing booted from office, and his current place of work as he runs statewide. Me thinks we haven't seen the last of Lou Gentile. (Thank God.)

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I'm hearing Leland has ruled out running for Treasurer. A real damn shame.

F***

Same, really. I'm just glad we've fielded credible candidates in both the down-ticket apportionment board positions. I suppose he could still be Sutton or Whaley's Lieutenant Governor candidate since they need to file with someone.

There's also now, evidently, polling for Cordray/Beatty, which seems like an awful idea, given its Columbus-centric nature.

Beatty? They are really desperate to have a black LG, that's a weak ticket.

Well, specifically, a Black woman. Though I agree, it's weak. I get the impetus, though, since it looks like the only Black candidate on the ticket is going to the candidate for Treasurer. (The failed Cinci Mayoral candidate.)

In Other News: The Springer rumor mills keep chugging away, with Springer appearing at a Labor Day event in support of Fight For Fifteen; frmr Gov. Dick Celeste's son has joined Sutton's campaign as a co-chair; and frmr State Senator Lou Gentile has landed at Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease, where he was welcomed by frmr State Senate Pres. Tome Niehouse. Vorys is the same law firm frmr Congressman Zack Space landed at after beeing booted from office, and his current place of work as he runs statewide. Me thinks we haven't seen the last of Lou Gentile. (Thank God.)

I mean they could go recruit Paula Hicks-Hudson, Emily Sykes or Alicia Reece if they are that desperate for a black female, at least bring geographical diversity to a ticket

Or even Marica Fudge, who has a great personality.

I really don't know what to think about Cordray anymore. One day I hear he's in, one day I hear he's out. There seem to be a lot of people endorsing Whaley now, which I think points to one of two things. 1) The obvious one, which is he's not getting in and people want Whaley, or 2) He is getting in and there's a strong shadow campaign for her to take the LG spot.

At this point, I am convinced now more than ever that Cordray would be surprisingly weak as a candidate. I hope he doesn't get in.

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I'm hearing Leland has ruled out running for Treasurer. A real damn shame.

F***

Same, really. I'm just glad we've fielded credible candidates in both the down-ticket apportionment board positions. I suppose he could still be Sutton or Whaley's Lieutenant Governor candidate since they need to file with someone.

There's also now, evidently, polling for Cordray/Beatty, which seems like an awful idea, given its Columbus-centric nature.

Beatty? They are really desperate to have a black LG, that's a weak ticket.

Well, specifically, a Black woman. Though I agree, it's weak. I get the impetus, though, since it looks like the only Black candidate on the ticket is going to the candidate for Treasurer. (The failed Cinci Mayoral candidate.)

In Other News: The Springer rumor mills keep chugging away, with Springer appearing at a Labor Day event in support of Fight For Fifteen; frmr Gov. Dick Celeste's son has joined Sutton's campaign as a co-chair; and frmr State Senator Lou Gentile has landed at Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease, where he was welcomed by frmr State Senate Pres. Tome Niehouse. Vorys is the same law firm frmr Congressman Zack Space landed at after beeing booted from office, and his current place of work as he runs statewide. Me thinks we haven't seen the last of Lou Gentile. (Thank God.)

I mean they could go recruit Paula Hicks-Hudson, Emily Sykes or Alicia Reece if they are that desperate for a black female, at least bring geographical diversity to a ticket

Or even Marica Fudge, who has a great personality.

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I really hope that was sarcasm

Did you see her on Colbert back when she was the Chair of the CBC? If she can evoke that on the trail, I'd say she's great.

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I agree with RJ. The only way the field is cleared entirely would be if Sherrod Brown decided to run for Governor instead of Senate. But then you'd see half the field change races, and that's not happening for a multitude of reasons.

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I'm hearing Leland has ruled out running for Treasurer. A real damn shame.

F***

Same, really. I'm just glad we've fielded credible candidates in both the down-ticket apportionment board positions. I suppose he could still be Sutton or Whaley's Lieutenant Governor candidate since they need to file with someone.

There's also now, evidently, polling for Cordray/Beatty, which seems like an awful idea, given its Columbus-centric nature.

Beatty? They are really desperate to have a black LG, that's a weak ticket.

Well, specifically, a Black woman. Though I agree, it's weak. I get the impetus, though, since it looks like the only Black candidate on the ticket is going to the candidate for Treasurer. (The failed Cinci Mayoral candidate.)

In Other News: The Springer rumor mills keep chugging away, with Springer appearing at a Labor Day event in support of Fight For Fifteen; frmr Gov. Dick Celeste's son has joined Sutton's campaign as a co-chair; and frmr State Senator Lou Gentile has landed at Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease, where he was welcomed by frmr State Senate Pres. Tome Niehouse. Vorys is the same law firm frmr Congressman Zack Space landed at after beeing booted from office, and his current place of work as he runs statewide. Me thinks we haven't seen the last of Lou Gentile. (Thank God.)

I mean they could go recruit Paula Hicks-Hudson, Emily Sykes or Alicia Reece if they are that desperate for a black female, at least bring geographical diversity to a ticket

Or even Marica Fudge, who has a great personality.

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I really hope that was sarcasm

Did you see her on Colbert back when she was the Chair of the CBC? If she can evoke that on the trail, I'd say she's great.

Oh boy...she really goes the extra mile in treating her staff horribly.  And she has a reputation within ODP (or at least certain circles) for being incredibly difficult to work with and is pretty widely disliked as a result to the point that there were rumors of a serious primary challenge for a few cycles simply b/c of how obnoxious she was to...well...everyone.  It's one thing when you treat your staff horribly (which is really bad, but in politics that's not really taken too seriously outside of said politician's own office), John Kerry, Chuck Hagel, Joe Sestak, Sheila Jackson Lee, Barbara Mikulski, and John Kasich are/were all notorious for this and it never caused them any serious problems.  However, when you're an a**hole to other politicians, donors, and non-staff folks whose support you need and go around treating them like incompetent hired help, then you run into problems. 

I wouldn't put much stock in the Cordray/Beatty rumors.  1) I still don't think Cordray's running for Governor, 2) If he does then he won't pick Beatty as his running-mate, 3) I think LG would be a step down for Beatty even if she was on a winning ticket, so she probably wouldn't accept anyway, 4) Even if Cordrey for some ridiculous reason needed a running-mate from Franklin County (a.k.a. Cordray country ), it'd be someone like Zach Klein (who actually might make a really good LG pick, the dude's definitely a potential rising star to watch and may well be a top-tier statewide candidate in another cycle or two, although he's really a county/local-level guy right now). 

I suppose the silver lining about Leland not running for Treasurer is that the Republican field is kinda weak and there are definitely other Democrats who could run instead (and still win, especially if Mingo is the Republican nominee).  I doubt Richardson or whatever that joke candidate's name is will be the Democratic nominee.

Ah. I had not heard this, and that's a shame. I don't really run in Cuyahoga County circles. Know a bit more about Summit, but that's more local level.

Both you and RJ don't think he's in? Hmm. Wonder what Badger thinks... Klein'll be a good statewide candidate some day -- God knows he wants high office -- but as is, I don't think that's happening until he serves out at least a term as County Prosecutor, and that's not happening until 2024 at the earliest.

I hope Richardson's not the nominee, but I know of no one interested in running for Treasurer. Not to say there isn't anyone, but... And if Cordray isn't getting in, I don't see Pillich dropping down. Her fundraising is too strong. I'm still hoping my sources were wrong about Leland.

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This article is almost three weeks old, but it speculates that if Cordray has any intention of resigning so he can run for governor, he may be waiting to do so until he can sign off on a new payday lending rule:

http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2017/08/if_richard_cordray_resigns_to.html

That seems unlikely to happen in a week.

In Other News: The new Franklin County Treasurer, Cheryl Brook Sullivan, likely won't be able to take her seat next week as no one is willing to bond her for two reasons. 1: A twenty-year-old felony Cocaine conviction, 2: Past bankruptcy convictions.

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Zack Space made his candidacy official today and is barnstorming Eastern Ohio with stops in Zanesville, Martins Ferry, and Steubenville.

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Hopefully, he will finally put the idea to rest.

ION: Brooks Sullivan has been offered a bond, albeit from a different insurer than Franklin County normally uses. The bond still needs to be approved, however, and that's up to Republican County Prosecutor Ron O'Brien.