OH: More Money Stuff (August)

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Dettelbach is inching toward officializing his campaign launch. From what I know, he's been getting around, but mostly on the down-low. I'd wager he's been holding off so he can announce a lot of cash on hand at launch.

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After months of open secrecy, Dettelbach is out of the gate. He seems to be emphasizing his role fighting corruption as a US Attorney and is, for now, demurring on Trump.

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Am I the only one the who thinks that the Dem Gov Field in OH is pretty good right now?

One of few. It isn't bad, per se. I'm honestly just surprised it's so small.

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Am I the only one the who thinks that the Dem Gov Field in OH is pretty good right now?

One of few. It isn't bad, per se. I'm honestly just surprised it's so small.

Small? There's five candidates really 4 major ones about the same size as the Republican field right now. Now none of them are A list candidates but they are credible not a bunch of gadfly's.

I think hes surprised, as am I that with so many "B-C list" candidates there arent more of them. Usually in a race with a bunch of lesser known a huge chunk get in.

I think springer is out and kuncinich is in though

This. With Ryan out and Cordray highly unlikely, I'm surprised the floodgates didn't break. There were twenty or so suspected B and C-listers looking at running in such a case, but now we've only got 4. (Kiefer's a D-list candidate.)

I'm also worried Kucinich is going to get in, since he's not dispelling rumors.

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I don't think Springer would be awful. (Though age would bother me.) I just don't think he will.

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Am I the only one the who thinks that the Dem Gov Field in OH is pretty good right now?

One of few. It isn't bad, per se. I'm honestly just surprised it's so small.

Small? There's five candidates really 4 major ones about the same size as the Republican field right now. Now none of them are A list candidates but they are credible not a bunch of gadfly's.

I think hes surprised, as am I that with so many "B-C list" candidates there arent more of them. Usually in a race with a bunch of lesser known a huge chunk get in.

I think springer is out and kuncinich is in though

This. With Ryan out and Cordray highly unlikely, I'm surprised the floodgates didn't break. There were twenty or so suspected B and C-listers looking at running in such a case, but now we've only got 4. (Kiefer's a D-list candidate.)

I'm also worried Kucinich is going to get in, since he's not dispelling rumors.

Yep, where are the Nina Turners, Armond Budishes, Mike Colemans, Jay Williams, Mike Ashfords, and Tom Sawyers.

Turner could still get in, and that would bother me greatly, but Coleman was never going to do it. Budish would be a great candidate, but after the past Cuyahoga County Exec. flopped, I think he's playing it safe. Bill O'Neill might still get in since Brunner and Cordray most likely won't.

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Armond Budish would be an A-list candidate, but it's too soon after FitzGerald for a Cuyahoga candidate to lead the ticket.  

Heh. Great minds think alike.

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Maybe I'm a cynic, but Mary Taylor is capitalizing on her sons' opioid addiction to connect with voters.

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Heard at an event that while Springer for Governor talk is nonsense, he might be looking at OH-01.

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DeWine is in trouble. Husted has announced the support of 35 GOP county Chairs and Vice Chairs from 29 counties. That's the leadership in one-third of Ohio's counties.

Joe Schiavoni, meanwhile, has landed the first national union endorsement from the Utility Workers Union of America.

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The early fundraising numbers were bad for DeWine. This is worse. It's still very early yet, but for the primary at least, I agree with RJ. this is Husted's to lose.

I don't want to prognosticate on the general yet.

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Husted goes in favored. How much, IDK, which is why I don't want to prognosticate on the specifics of the general. At this juncture, best to worst Republican opponent for the Democrats goes:

• Taylor
• Renacci
• DeWine
• Husted

In my opinion, OFC.

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Husted goes in favored. How much, IDK, which is why I don't want to prognosticate on the specifics of the general. At this juncture, best to worst Republican opponent for the Democrats goes:

• Taylor
• Renacci
• DeWine
• Husted

In my opinion, OFC.

Completely agree

As do I

more I think about it, there is something special about husted, hes conservative in the right areas for conservatives, moderate  in the right areas for moderates. If he wasn't a white man he'd probably be one of the biggest rising stars in the national republican party

And Democrats don't mind him that much because we know at the end of the day, he's one of the few Ohio Republicans we can work with.

Why Democrats think we can work with someone who purged 550,000 voters and has been awful for voting rights is beyond me. Am I the only one who remembers fighting for Golden Week in '14?

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As far as I'm concerned, the only reason to purge a voter from the rolls is in the rare case of actual voter fraud. Brunner acting in the same way doesn't make me respect Husted more, it makes me respect Brunner less.

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DeWine's lawsuit against opioid companies gains bi-partisan support with Dettelbach bucking Chairman Pepper and actively supporting the suits, while the cities of Dayton and Lorain are launching their own seperate suits. This is of note, in my mind, because Whaley is running for Governor and Mayor Ritenauer of Lorain is speculated to run for Auditor. This could equate to a political partnership down the line.

I also noticed while watching the Cav's game last night that the Drug Price Standards Initiative is running an ad featuring Max Cleland. Guess they started running it last Tuesday. Pretty decent ad.

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As far as I'm concerned, the only reason to purge a voter from the rolls is in the rare case of actual voter fraud. Brunner acting in the same way doesn't make me respect Husted more, it makes me respect Brunner less.

I can't disagree on this more, nothing like clogged poll books with hundreds of thousands of duplicates and deceased voters, as well as people who have moved.

I would be willing to amendment my statement to the only reason to purge a dead voter from the rolls is the rare case of actual voter fraud. But that's about it.

And probably (one of) the difference(s) between me being a pretty left-leaning Democrat and you being you.

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Eugh, Mary Taylor is a p.o.s.

This is in response to her capitalizing on her sons' addiction?

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Newark City Councilman Jeremy Blake is weighing a run for State Treasurer and has been making rounds across the state while up for re-election this year. I'd say he's a small fry, but his poking around might be indicative Leland isn't running. Or maybe Blake is trying to root out Leland's true intentions. No idea, Leland's not been in the news much recently.

Meanwhile, the Zack Space for Auditor rumor mill grows louder and louder.

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ECOT/Charter scandal is growing, with the State Board of Education demanding $60 mil. back, though ECOT claims they can't sustain that kind of financial loss. Accounting for other failing charter schools, this is much more financially significant than Coingate ever was. Not to mention the human cost.

Also, Yost praised ECOT's audits and gave them an award for excellence a while back. Chartergate should get bigger, and I'd be surprised if Dettelbach doesn't work in Yost's ECOT-praise into an ad.

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ECOT/Charter scandal is growing, with the State Board of Education demanding $60 mil. back, though ECOT claims they can't sustain that kind of financial loss. Accounting for other failing charter schools, this is much more financially significant than Coingate ever was. Not to mention the human cost.

Also, Yost praised ECOT's audits and gave them an award for excellence a while back. Chartergate should get bigger, and I'd be surprised if Dettelbach doesn't work in Yost's ECOT-praise into an ad.

ECOT is not a scandal with any legs right now, because I think most normal people would consider both sides being ridiculous. I'm confident a middle ground will be reached eventually. As for charter schools, they are still a weird issue, that is polarizing and probably is not a real wedge for any large group. Selling it as government waste/corruption seems like a reach to the casual person and may be too hard to sell to voters.

It shouldn't be a reach since, 1) it's pay-to-play politics, 2) more financially irresponsible than Coingate, and 3) is, in the case of schools like ECOT, setting kids' education back years.

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We'll see if it gets worked out. I'm doubtful Will Lager gets given up by the OH GOP.

There may not be a good ad for, say, Schiavoni or Whaley, but there's a solid ad against Yost. $60 million is just one year of mismanagement, and this likely goes back to 2014 or so. Log in's aren't the biggest issue, it's misreporting enrollment.

(I also never took any online classes in college.)

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Finally.

I really want new fundraising numbers.

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Former congressman Zack Space is running for Auditor while failed Cincinnati mayoral candidate Rob Richardson is running for Treasurer. Space is a good get for Democrats, though it unfortunately means Lorain Mayor Ritenauer is probably out. Richardson says he was approached about running, which I hope isn't true because Leland is a MUCH better candidate.

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I'd be disappointed in Leland if that's true, but I've also heard Sutton is behaving better toward her staff and colleagues. Maybe her loss humbled her some? I'm still skeptical. Another thing about Sutton is that she introduced Bernie when he came through Columbus this past weekend. Nothing about Nina Turner being there -- hopefully that means she's out. Though that raises a question as to whether or not Bill O'Neil will get in.

EDIT: O'Neil having said he would unless Turner or Cordray get in.

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Pence offered an endorsement of sorts to Renacci when in Cleveland earlier this week. Also, the quarterly finance period end today. We should get an idea of how everyone is doing by the end of next week.