This thread (and Atlas's attitude towards Warren in general, from Jfern to Hagrid to ClassicCon) is hilarious. Honestly, Beet might have a point here if you aim it not at Bernie people but everyone else.
All the people who cry sexism seem to dislike Tulsi Gabbard.
You're right, I don't. She strikes me as an opportunist who is using Bernie's movement.
I also didn't like Secretary Clinton, but all of the people who think Warren is 'shrill' are deeply suspect IMHO.
No1 is saying that Gabbard is the heir to bernie. But opportunist is a ridiculous depiction because when Gabbard endorsed Bernie, Bernie was collapsing. After losing Iowa, Nevada, he lost SC by around 50% & Super Tuesday was supposed to end his Presidential run. No1 even thought he could run deep.
And Gabbard is only 36, was taking on the Clinton machine who have loyalty scores & wipe out dissenters & they personally threatened her that this would be remembered, all funds will be pulled & there could be future repercussions. In addition, Gabbard was a DNC Vice-Chair who quit her post. She is very young, is a female military veteran, Congresswomen & DNC Vice-Chair, for her the easy & politically correct thing would be to not go full throttle with Bernie. She would have been a start, would have won Hirono's Senate seat in 2024 & would have launched her presidential run in 2028.
Today, her whole future has been sort of endangered !
The campaign was breaking fundraising records, he had outperformed expectations in IA, and knew it was going to take home several wins on Super Tuesday. Maybe you were feeling down about Sanders's chances then, but very few other people were.
Gabbard has lost a position on the inside track, but seems to have gained a captive audience among a subset of Bernie folks. Think of yourself and Jfern as Glenn Beck devotees. He may have lost his position on Fox news by saying crazy ish, but was able to monetize his base far more effectively from The Blaze. And that's what I suspect Gabbard is doing: cashing in on Bernie's revolution.
Tulsi gets a lot of hate for bogus reasons. Warren is kind of a coward, but she is still better than the overwhelming majority of Senators.
As for her policy positions getting undue flack; I don't know about you but I'm extremely cautious about people who claim to be on the left but think that the nature of Islam is what creates terrorists in the middle east, and pal around with the BJP.
I am sorry but are painting a completely wrong picture. No1 in this forum thought any state other than VT was sure for Bernie (maybe MN, CO at best if Bernie gets lucky). I was here every single day & that 250,000 people in Reddit were not confident of a single win outside VT. The whole campaign was collapsing. Bernie Sanders came to Nevada with a huge support expecting & even declaring that he will win. And then he lost Nevada & all his momentum.
He had even climbed to 36% in some polls in SC & then fell to a 24-25% odd & lost by a massive 50% in SC. As for polls go, only VT showed Bernie winning, Minnesota & Colorado had caucuses with very few polls (you can check old threads here). Oklahoma, Hillary was leading in many polls & Bernie won because he won conservative votes 2/1 apart from some liberal votes. It was a shock win.
Hillary & her team (Bill & others) campaigned everywhere - Minnesota, Colorado - Colorado was a closed caucus with no independents & HRC has won Iowa & Nevada Caucuses. Out-performed expectations in Iowa is also an incorrect statements considering Bernie led in several Iowa Polls during the home run, most notably the CNN/WMUR. The Iowa result was almost exactly as the polls predicted (not over-performing).
One of the major problems here is that people have set views & then they pick & chose logic to suit that view. Bernie's campaign was collapsing after SC, he could barely compete in most states (didn't even visit most Southern states) & Devine said multiple times that they have to win a few states in Super Tuesday for their campaign to survive. HRC campaigned explicitly had a strategy of competing if Bernie's stronger states in Super Tuesday to win all states bar VT & knock him out.
Gabbard is nowhere near as progressive as Bernie & she will never get those uber liberal votes. She is not Glen Beck of the right with a life long advocacy. Gabbard did put her whole career on stake . This is not a media show or a game. HRC was going to be the President & DWS the DNC Chair. And remember, no1 knew that Bernie would win Hawaii big (Obama's home state) so she was putting her re-election in jeopardy in the future! Regardless of Gabbard's ideological position, this should be standard logic !
