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« on: May 08, 2017, 05:36:54 AM »

Why did so many voters who backed Barack Obama in 2012 switch to Donald Trump four years later, and what can be done to win them back?

Priorities USA, the super PAC conducted focus groups of Obama-Trump voters in Wisconsin and Michigan — in late January and polled some 800 Obama-Trump voters nationally at around the same time. The pollsters also conducted focus groups with so-called drop-off voters — people who voted for Obama in 2012 but didn’t vote in 2016 — in the same states and polled 800 drop-off voters nationally.

A sizable chunk of Obama-Trump voters — 30% — said their vote for Trump was more a vote against Clinton than a vote for Trump.

42% of Obama-Trump voters said congressional Democrats’ economic policies will favor the wealthy, vs. only 21% of them who said the same about Trump. (40% say that about congressional Republicans.)

A total of 77 percent of Obama-Trump voters said Trump’s policies will favor some mix of all other classes (middle class, poor, all equally), while a total of 58 percent said that about congressional Democrats.

In one, Obama-Trump voters were asked what Democrats stand for today and gave answers such as these: “The one percent.”  “The status quo.”  “They’re for the party. Themselves and the party.
               
One woman, asked whether the Democratic Party is for people like her, flatly declared: “Nope.”

The polling also shows that, among the Obama-Trump voters, large percentages of the more cautious supporters of Trump are concerned that he will go through with deep cuts to social programs and the repeal of Obamacare.

“To win back cautious Trump supporters, we should tie Trump to GOP policies that put the interests of the wealthy/businesses before the middle class and programs they rely on,” the polling memo concludes. Cecil noted that winning back Obama-Trump voters would be key in 2018 to defending vulnerable Democratic senators and winning the many gubernatorial contests that are taking place in big swing states currently controlled by Republicans.

Source - Washington Post [/b]/why-did-trump-win-new-research-by-democrats-offers-a-worrisome-answer/
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2017, 06:19:19 AM »
« Edited: May 08, 2017, 06:22:02 AM by Shadows »

I remember Bill Maher talking about this poll saying "they literally believe in the opposite of reality" An I kinda agree I mean since 2010 the Tea Party has been openly promoting cut rich people's taxes while Obama and dems openly fought for things like raising the minimum wage. So while dems do need to fix its PR image this also shows the problem of how freakin uninformed the voting public can get

Obama in the end didn't get much of a minimum wage increase. And this is not about PR but hard facts. Obama's reign was the worst when it came to income inequality, concentration of wealthy. Whether intended, unintended, whether due to inability to govern or obstructionism, Obama's economy tended to massively favor the wealthy & left everyone else out.










Obama's policies hasn't worked for the working & middle class but for the wealthy (what his intention be). Trump being a con-man & GOP being worse is a different debate here !
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2017, 06:59:36 AM »

The growth of inequality was a side-effect of the result of the Bush Era's policies, with the beginning of Obama's term obviously being impacted entirely by the implosion that had begun under the previous administration. Obviously the wealthy were gonna score big in an economic collapse; they're the only ones who were in the position to take advantage of it.

This is even more obvious when you look at Obama's later years, where income growth across all income brackets resumed. Of course, all of those charts above conveniently cut off at 2011-2012.

But yes, voters are dumb and are while they were smart enough to punish the GOP for its failures in 06-08, they weren't smart enough to continue punishing them for the pain that ricocheted across the economy for years afterward. That failure on their part is why they're hurting so much today: had the GOP been completely shut out of government after 2010, they would have had no ability to obstruct reforms that would have lessened inequality and increased growth. Now the voters will get to feel that pain for a generation or more, since they handed the GOP a reapportionment cycle in 2010.

Whoever is in nominal power at any given point is who they blame, and there's very little that can be done to change that goldfish-like recollection/behavior.

That is actually not correct. Obama's 2nd term data (& there's some data there till 2015 odd) [& btw it takes time to analyze this data after a full term & it's not about leaving to make a distorted point] is as bad when it comes to income inequality, perhaps worse.







The data of Obama's 2nd term when it comes to income inequality is as bad, if not worse!
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