Obama Twists the Dagger on HRC's 2016 Campaign

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Anyone got a list of the number of Hillary visits to states after the convention? We know that she didn't visit Wisconsin once, and Michigan only once, which was just fail. I know that at the end of the campaign, she was only visiting a couple of states a day, while Trump managed to visit 5 in a day.

Maybe she lacked the fortitude and stamina....

I wish that there was a separate thread on the campaign visits during the GE campaign.

Makes me want to play that election game again, where you can place your campaign and surrogates into different states, adjust schedules at the last minute based upon internal polling, etc....

Unfortunately, I don't have the list, but yeah am thinking there were huge chunks of the country that were ignored, including several of the "Firewall States".

I'm sure one of our colleagues has been tracking this on a spreadsheet somewhere....

True - She didn't campaign hard  - Trump worked his a** off, did so many rallies & won. Some1  with Clinton's stamina should not be running IMO!

But Obama is 100% right. The stand Clinton took was that Gun Shop owners & mfg should be held accountable for gun crimes even if they had nothing to do with it - That was completely unfair - You can't blame a car seller if it is used for killing or a knife seller - That would be the end of 2nd amendment! It hurt really bad in the GE!

She barely spoke about policies making it a Personality Driven contest & paid the price for that! The damage Clinton & her band of followers have done to the Dem party is unreal - The party is in the worst state in 100 years - On the verge of ruin!

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“I won Iowa not because the demographics dictated that I would win in Iowa. It was because I spent 87 days going to every small town and fair and fish fry and VFW hall,” he said. “So the challenge for a national party is how do you dig in there and create those kinds of structures, so that people have a sense of what it is that you stand for. And that increasingly is difficult to do just through a national press strategy.”



Obama said it like it is!

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Anyone got a list of the number of Hillary visits to states after the convention? We know that she didn't visit Wisconsin once, and Michigan only once, which was just fail. I know that at the end of the campaign, she was only visiting a couple of states a day, while Trump managed to visit 5 in a day.

Maybe she lacked the fortitude and stamina....

I wish that there was a separate thread on the campaign visits during the GE campaign.

Makes me want to play that election game again, where you can place your campaign and surrogates into different states, adjust schedules at the last minute based upon internal polling, etc....

Unfortunately, I don't have the list, but yeah am thinking there were huge chunks of the country that were ignored, including several of the "Firewall States".

I'm sure one of our colleagues has been tracking this on a spreadsheet somewhere....

True - She didn't campaign hard  - Trump worked his a** off, did so many rallies & won. Some1  with Clinton's stamina should not be running IMO!

But Obama is 100% right. The stand Clinton took was that Gun Shop owners & mfg should be held accountable for gun crimes even if they had nothing to do with it - That was completely unfair - You can't blame a car seller if it is used for killing or a knife seller - That would be the end of 2nd amendment! It hurt really bad in the GE!

She barely spoke about policies making it a Personality Driven contest & paid the price for that! The damage Clinton & her band of followers have done to the Dem party is unreal - The party is in the worst state in 100 years - On the verge of ruin!

It was total BS trying to bag Bernie on guns.... I haven't run the numbers since that debate, but I suspect when she went that route, and went further down the rabbit hole in subsequent debates, she not only lost rural/small-town Democratic voters to Trump, but additionally lost Indies and Moderate Republicans in many of these communities, that were lost pre "PussyGate"....

I am not a gun owner, and quite frankly am a bit uncomfortable seeing a friend wave a 9 mm around in his 300 sf efficiency in a small college town (Totally legal from a Navy vet) back in the early 2000s) while I was in the room.

Although I haven't been able to obtain precinct level results from Philomath Oregon yet, I suspect this small city of 4.5k swung hard towards Trump after voting heavily for Obama in '08/'12.

I had friends that worked in one of the last timber mills standing, where it went from three to one in a few short years, and Larry worked 3rd shift as a security guard in a non-union position to protect the plant from the "Tweakers" that have increasingly become the norm over the past 15-20 years in rural and small town Oregon.

I lived in this small mill town for awhile, and commuted to my job in the mailroom at a "boom town" next door, and straight-up I was extremely surprised to see Bernie dominate in many of the rural communities and small mill-towns that I used to call home, considering that Clinton was considered a shoe-in....

All of those Clinton boosters out there ignored the giant "Red Flag" when she was getting killed in the primaries in working-class Democratic small town USA....

But...but...but.... only the votes from Super Tuesday count.  Wait, losing Michigan and Wisconsin don't count....

Ok... but what about PA and OH?  That can't be blamed on Bernie holdouts....

Reap what you sow, and although I got a college degree, I never came from rank and privilege, and never voted Republican or Democrat for President until 2004 when my buddy died outside of Taji/Camp Cooke in Iraq..... I consider myself an Obama Democrat and reluctantly voted for her in the GE after supporting Bernie in the primaries.....

In Oregon, unless you are just a creature of the City and suburbs, guns are a way of life, but for hunting and self-protection and unlike where I lived in Texas, most people don't flip on common sense items like universal background checks....

People flip on economic issues.... ancestral New Deal Democratic counties in Oregon flipped Trump, and even crazier in the Industrial Midwest, including my former residence in Ohio....

Why does that happen..... it's a situation where many voters feel that the Democratic Party abandoned them, and not that they don't support bread and butter party economics.

Great post!