Democratic Freak States Holy Saturday results thread (1st caucuses begin @1pmET)

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At least there are some sane states left to avenge Bernie for the filthy South and its voters with their Hillary-fetish ...

Tender, you do realize that your remarks will probably end up single-handedly taking down Bernie Sanders?

Atlas has no relevance to voters around the country nor is Tender a spokesperson for Bernie. So no effect.

But it casts a bad light on Bernie supporters - Makes them look bad like Landside, Lief, Ag, lyin and the bunch of Clinton hacks - These comments like "Filthy South" suit them & not Sanders supporters.

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No1 said he will CA BY 70% you troll.

And Republicans will win NH in the general... Bernie has less than zero chance of winning the nomination, sorry.

But Republicans might win NH in the general. I have serious doubts that you've ever been to NH, or known anyone from NH.

Trump polls terribly in NH. It's one of his worst "swing" states. It's not going GOP.

Against Bernie he does. But he had a lot of votes & won the GOP vote big. Somehow NH I think in some meshes with Trump, if Trump can tone down his profanity & vulgarity. It will be a close call IMO

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I've noticed that 538 isn't covering these contests. Why no love for the Pacific states, Nate?

538 dislikes Sanders. They think the Dem contest is already over and show more interest in the GOP race because Trump.

lol. They don't "dislike Sanders", they just accept the reality that the race is over.

lol. Sanders gets landslide victories in Idaho, Utah, Alaska, Washington, with likely victories in Hawaii and Wisconsin.

THE RACE IS OVER, NOTHING TO LOOK AT FOLKS.

Is it not? After tonight, Hillarys lead dips to 240ish delegates. Which states does Sanders have left where he can make up such a huge delegate difference?

Hillary is overwhelmingly likely to win the nomination, but the race is not over. Its not like the rest of the states don't matter, they do matter, they matter because they are a measure of how strong the progressive movement is within the Democratic party. It matters because there's a wing that will probably be called the 'Sanders' wing that should be much more influential then they were in the past.  A strong finish in this primary season can mean a lot, even if he's not the nominee.

I think you took "the race is over" a little too seriously. It is over in the sense that Hillary is going to be the nominee, but you are correct that a lot can still be learned from the remaining states. But to people who only care about an overall victor, it makes sense to have tuned out after March 15th. That said, you would expect 538 to be interested in patterns and results even if they won't effect the overall outcome, given the type of site it is.

No1 has said Sanders is winning this race - And 538 is shi* & always was. It's for kids who don't understand stuff, grown ups shouldn't be discussing about this!

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I've noticed that 538 isn't covering these contests. Why no love for the Pacific states, Nate?

In general 538 n Polling averages is for not so intelligent people to give them some idea about a state so they get the hang of it. But when people argue citing 538 like a gospel it is honestly embarrassing!

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I would've thought Clinton would do better in Yakima. There's a decent Latino population there.

It was one of Clinton's better counties in 08. Sanders won latinos in a few states, like IL, so he could be winning them in WA too.

Yea hispanics have not shown a general voting trend like Blacks. Look in states where Clinton swept they went with them, they went with Sanders in some states. But in close contests, there has been no major difference  - No pattern to say 1 candidate is winning 65-70% of the Hispanic vote uniformly. They could go either way!

This is good news for CA seeing as in the last poll Sanders is already winning the white votes with so many months left, he will catch with the hispanic vote as well!

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Hillary invested a lot into Seattle & it will pull the margin down to a little over 70% - Bad!

This was set-up to 75% & above, somewhere close to Idaho, but above 70% in a large state is awesome - I will take it. Fantastic result in Alaska too!

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Hillary invested a lot into Seattle & it will pull the margin down to a little over 70% - Bad!

This was set-up to 75% & above, somewhere close to Idaho, but above 70% in a large state is awesome - I will take it. Fantastic result in Alaska too!

It'll be the only large state where you get anything like that margin so if I were in your position I would take it too because the Northeast and Mid-Atlantic closed primaries are going to slaughter your guy

Which state was Bernie slaughtered in - He won 1, 2 he was within 1%. He has a good chance of winning the mid-west & he will win in the NE small states & pull decent results in the NE big states.

There will be no more slaughters bar Maryland maybe!

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Looks like today will end up being around a 60-65 delegate gap closer for Sanders.

Around 45 In Washington & 10 in Alaska (NET) - So 55 there. So 60-65 seems a fair call @ this point considering Hawaii may give Bernie the victory & he could cross 60% there as well!

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Clinton News Network (CNN) is now saying Hawaii is a white state - How dumb is this? The white population in Hawaii is not even 25%, mostly Asians & some native hawaii people & mixed race (small black population).

The stupidity of CNN to justify Hillary is hilarious.

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Alaska 82% Sanders finally. Hilldawg was so close to being unviable!

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Problem is King's in Hilldawg's best county so she will gain a bit, not enough to make a big difference!

Anyways how much time left for Alaska results?

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Problem is King's in Hilldawg's best county so she will gain a bit, not enough to make a big difference!

Anyways how much time left for Alaska results?

You mean Hawaii's results? Probably another hour or so.

Also, Sanders has been climbing in King, so I don't think he's going to dip below 72%, at this point.

Yea Hawaii, He won't fall below 72% I know that. Seattle could have done better honestly - The entire state gave Bernie 75-80%. And likewise the google sheet showed - Seattle will have more people so a 66% there would drag it down & we got fewer results from Seattle.

Great result none-the-less. NH looks more n more like a bad performance now!

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How legit is this?
https://twitter.com/LarryWebsite/status/713934959195656192
Sanders supposedly winning 104 out of 107 precincts counted. 247 precincts in total.

It's probably based on the Google Docs spreadsheet that is aggregating Twitter results.  It's not really 104 of 107 precincts, though, as some results are by House District instead of precinct.  Clinton likely won more than 1 precinct in each House District to win the whole district.  Somewhere around 98 of 107 is probably more accurate.

That spreadsheet has Clinton down 81-19 in Washington. She's down 72-27 with 90% reporting; that spreadsheet is BS

Most of the reporting is probably being done by Redditors, who are more likely Sanders supporters. Very pro-Clinton precincts might not have many young people or Redditors there and thus wouldn't have someone to report the numbers, making the results biased towards Sanders by omission.

Those are obvious issues - That will definitely happen. But few Seattle precincts were reported where Hilldawg did well - Sanders did get 75-80% in most of the state though!

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Problem is King's in Hilldawg's best county so she will gain a bit, not enough to make a big difference!

Anyways how much time left for Alaska results?

You mean Hawaii's results? Probably another hour or so.

Also, Sanders has been climbing in King, so I don't think he's going to dip below 72%, at this point.

Yea Hawaii, He won't fall below 72% I know that. Seattle could have done better honestly - The entire state gave Bernie 75-80%. And likewise the google sheet showed - Seattle will have more people so a 66% there would drag it down & we got fewer results from Seattle.

Great result none-the-less. NH looks more n more like a bad performance now!

I actually think that it was some of the surburbs, like Bellevue, where Clinton did better. Based on anecdotal evidence, it seems like Sanders won Seattle itself around with somewhere between 70% and 75%.

I have some questions -

Age divide in your caucus? As in young-old divide

White-Minority breakup? How did minorities like Hispanics or blacks go - Assuming a community went overwhelmingly for Sanders or Clinton

Based on what I saw in the local news thing, it looks like there were very few change of votes - People decided & stuck to their original notion

How could you categorize the energy of Bernie & Hillary supporters?

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Problem is King's in Hilldawg's best county so she will gain a bit, not enough to make a big difference!

Anyways how much time left for Alaska results?

You mean Hawaii's results? Probably another hour or so.

Also, Sanders has been climbing in King, so I don't think he's going to dip below 72%, at this point.

Yea Hawaii, He won't fall below 72% I know that. Seattle could have done better honestly - The entire state gave Bernie 75-80%. And likewise the google sheet showed - Seattle will have more people so a 66% there would drag it down & we got fewer results from Seattle.

Great result none-the-less. NH looks more n more like a bad performance now!

I actually think that it was some of the surburbs, like Bellevue, where Clinton did better. Based on anecdotal evidence, it seems like Sanders won Seattle itself around with somewhere between 70% and 75%.

I have some questions -

Age divide in your caucus? As in young-old divide

White-Minority breakup? How did minorities like Hispanics or blacks go - Assuming a community went overwhelmingly for Sanders or Clinton

Based on what I saw in the local news thing, it looks like there were very few change of votes - People decided & stuck to their original notion

How could you categorize the energy of Bernie & Hillary supporters?

In terms of age, there was a pretty even distribution of younger-older voters. The age divide between the candidates didn't seem super strong, although Clinton's supporters seemed slightly older on average.

My precinct was mostly white, though there were a few Asians and Latinos. I didn't see a major difference in how they voted.

There were six undecided voters. Two of them ended up going for Clinton, one went for Sanders, the rest stayed undecided.

Yes the local channel showed a surprisingly high number of older voters for Bernie, some even 1st timer older voters.

Weird that there was no huge youth participation overwhelmingly for Bernie. I don't get the purpose of these undecided though if they won't vote - This is dumb - Why come all the way & stand in a line for so long & go through the entire process - Waste so much time, energy, money!

And they stay undecided - And not just 1, but 3, that is half of them - Plain weirdos!

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As I said earlier, it'll probably be 73-28, so +45 for Bernie.

Greenpapers is showing 74-27 when Sanders was @ 72.57.

Edit - It will 74-27. 100% in & Sanders @ 72.7%, Clinton down to 27.1%, others - 0.2%. He has got late boost from king's where his vote share from 65 odd has increased to 67.3. Pierce increased to 73.3 as well - Likely some 75% odd Bernie precincts report.

I heard 72.7% or something was the mark required for the extra delegate!

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As I said earlier, it'll probably be 73-28, so +45 for Bernie.

Greenpapers is showing 74-27 when Sanders was @ 72.57.

Edit - It will 74-27. 100% in & Sanders @ 72.7%, Clinton down to 27.1%, others - 0.2%. He has got late boost from king's where his vote share from 65 odd has increased to 67.3. Pierce increased to 73.3 as well - Likely some 75% odd Bernie precincts report.

I heard 72.7% or something was the mark required for the extra delegate!

Well, I stand corrected, then. +47 will almost certainly be Bernie's biggest gain from a single state. He'd have to win CA by double digits to beat that.

If he wins CA by 10% he will get that margin. I think if the race stays competitive he will do better. He is already winning the whites in CA.

Too early to call but for me it is a genuine possibility that we could do Very Well in CA!

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Just to add I think the 0.2% will be distributed among Bernie & Hillary right?

So Sanders will get around 72.85% odd & Hillary @ 27.15% odd - 74-27 split surely - That is why Alaska got bumped up, they rounded the others n stuff I think!

73% in a Big state like Washington is not easy to pull - Very difficult to do these numbers in 100+ Delegate States.

Is there any state 100+ Delegate state where a candidate has got 73% or more of the votes this time? Washington may the best result of any "Big State" this time!

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Something I'm rather confident in: Sanders won't be winning California - by ten points or otherwise. She won the state in 2008 against Obama by 8 points. I won't say it's impossible for Sanders to win the state (he won Michigan for god's sake) - but he won't be winning it by more than 10.

Clinton won OK by 25% in 08 & lost by 10% or so in 16. Some of Clinton's best states are very good for Sanders this time. Clinton is getting Obama's black votes but Sanders has taken away from a significant section of Clinton white votes - Moderates, Middle Class & even conservatives.

Sanders will win the white & liberal votes of Obama by a bigger margin in CA & there is no reason for him to lose the hispanic vote decisively. Obama lost the hispanic decisively in almost all states

10% possibly is too much of an ask, there's 2 months left now - Let us see - Even a victory would be difficult!

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That stuff was taken from reddit, Atlas is visiting reddit way too often!

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these islanders are getting on my nerves.

report the results now!!

Another 30-40 minutes - Weird - So late!

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Speaking of Reddit  - Hilarious stuff happen.

A Jeb Bush fan came n asked for a Sanders-Jeb Bush run! *Facepalm*

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Sanders 71%
Clinton 29%
with 88 % of precincts reporting

https://twitter.com/StarAdvertiser/status/713994238745305088

71% in Hawaii?

Is this real? We're winning by a much bigger margin than I thought. Hillbots were saying Hawaii is Obama's state & what not.

Imagine Sanders winning Hawaii with the same margin as Alaska

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Muh nonwhites must have had 0% turnout

Yea right! Hawaii has barely 20-25% Whites, full of Asians, some natives!

One of the smallest white states - wow!

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But asians hate Bernie?!? Amirite?

Asians are less disenfranchised than white people. They're also more reasonable, from what I can tell. The only more reasonable minority group is Native Americans.

I've been unable to find any information on Asians in Hawaii. I assume they are generally as rich as Whites in Hawaii?

Asians are richer than whites but Native Hawaiians are poorer than whites. Less difference between the races than in the US as a whole.

http://www.usa.com/hawaii-state-income-and-careers.htm

Richer & generally much more educated as well!