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« on: March 15, 2016, 02:08:26 PM »

You know Democrats have no winner-take-all states, yes? The longer it drags on, the higher margins Bernie has to win by to overcome her delegate lead. He's going to blow her out in New York and California? So Bernie has closer to a 7% chance than a 70% chance of being the nominee.

The GOP is less certain but Trump is not unacceptable to the majority of Republican voters. A record number of Republican voters for a nominee? Yes. A majority of them? No. They might still stop him but he's much closer to 90% to win than 90% to lose.

He'll win a lot of states from Wisconsin to Washington to Oregon, etc which are delegate heavy & a lot of smaller states after today - All these by good margins.

New York looks impossible but California looks possible for a win, maybe a decent win (not blow off) considering we have absolutely an army of passionate Sanders supporters, it's unreal!
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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2016, 02:10:12 PM »

You're saying things that simply aren't true. He can cut her lead by about ~100 delegates between now and New York by blowing out the lily white states, even if he gets nothing out of Arizona and Hawaii. California alone has 475 delegates. There are plenty of delegates to go, and with his superior campaign it's more likely he'll get them or not.

No he can't. Unless you're thinking he wins them by Vermont-esque margins.

Bernie can sweep rest of the states, but he still would be likely to be short of delegates.

This is how Obama won in 2008: in addition to states he won he managed to make it close in a number of key Hillary states, thus collecting delegates needed despite losing those.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to believe Bernie has a convinceable path, but the only chance Hillary is not the nominee is if she's going to jail. And despite right wing trollery, that's not very likely either.

I think he could still have a ray of hope depending on how tonight turns out. We'll see soon enough.

Clinton is the firm favorite & would be the firm favorite after today as well IMO. If Sanders has any chance he has to win big in the coming states before New York - That will be his big test - How big can he win & how much can he make up & how much momentum is he carrying to New York?
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