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« on: February 09, 2016, 10:41:28 AM »

Hello Friends - You can check the results in here, intial trends have started coming in but we are likely to get a clear picture after 5-6 hours. Not even 1% of the results have come in

https://www.washingtonpost.com/2016-election-results/new-hampshire/

http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2016, 10:48:09 AM »

Reports from the ground - Early voters are mostly older people. College kids are expected to come in by the time voting ends, so you could see some change there.

Chuck Todd is saying that there will be having a record turnout.
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2016, 10:49:06 AM »

Right now, with 26 votes in, the results are:
Sanders  17 votes  60.7%
Clinton    9 votes    32.1%

Sanders has an early lead.

26 votes is nothing. You will only get some rough idea after 5-6 hours. And there will still be change depending on which age group largely votes at what time.

But at-least we can track the results here.
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2016, 03:35:37 PM »

Ground reports suggest a Record turnout. Confirmed by the Dem & GOP & every possible source.

Apparently in some counties independents have gone so much to Dems that they are running out of ballot - Looks good for Sanders so far!!!!
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2016, 09:20:03 PM »

Looking ahead to Nevada and South Carolina, here are the 2008 demographics:

NEVADA
Men 41% / Women 59%

18-44 32% / 45 and up 68%

Party ID: DEM 81% / IND 15% / REP 4%

White 65% / Black 15% / Hispanic 15% / Asian 3%


SOUTH CAROLINA
Men 39% / Women 61%

18-24 8%
25-29 6%
30-39 16%
40-49 19%
50-64 35%
65 and up 17%

Party ID: DEM 73% / IND 23% / REP 4%

White 43% / Black 55%

This data is not right, do another round of research & posts links. Nevada has a bigger Hispanic & lower black population
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2016, 09:28:04 PM »

This is historic.

No matter how things go after NH (and no matter how the Hillary hacks are going to rationalize NH), Bernie's campaign has already achieved what nobody ever thought they could. His message and his voters will be a force to be reckoned with for the future of the Democratic party. This is just the beginning.

The issue is how you expand those ideas beyond the Democratic base. This CAN be a good thing for the Democrats, but if not done right could blow up in their faces, particularly if the GOP decides not to drive themselves off a cliff.
That's what I fear. I can get behind Bernie in the general, but he has yet to define himself. Even in the primary, what do Democratic voters know about Bernie besides him being against Wall Street and the Establishment. If he gets nuked by Republican money and they define him as some crazy old Jewish socialist from the North then he's f7cked in the general electorate. No matter how many college kids come out.

Hillary has no so much issues, from Benghazi to email to her husband to Wall Street to her flip flop & she shouts like a mad person. She is in trouble. She has so much baggage, she will destroyed. They have not even touched her & they hate her. The script writes itself.

And due to her very poor connect with independents & young people, she will 100% loose the general. Independents are the largest voting bloc, whoever gets them wins.
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2016, 10:09:02 PM »

22.2% on DD, it is only increasing. Anything beyond 20% is amazing! Big Victory!
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2016, 10:13:44 PM »

The rest of America has just started tuning in.  A long speech is the best thing he could do.  It makes him look viable that the networks are covering him for a half an hour and that he is hitting all his talking points. 

Sanders isn't electable.

He may be the most electable Democrat in decades. With Clinton you won't independents, so you have already lost the general. Plus no connect with the youth to make the loss every bigger!

Sanders is the only hope now anyways!
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2016, 10:17:41 PM »

The rest of America has just started tuning in.  A long speech is the best thing he could do.  It makes him look viable that the networks are covering him for a half an hour and that he is hitting all his talking points. 

Sanders isn't electable.

He may be the most electable Democrat in decades. With Clinton you won't independents, so you have already lost the general. Plus no connect with the youth to make the loss every bigger!

Sanders is the only hope now anyways!

Just plain wrong. If you are still here in October I will prove it to you.

You can't. Hillary is the most un-electable Democrat candidate I have seen in the last 30 odd years. Kerry, Gore, who lost were a MUCH MUCH better candidate than Hillary. There is reason why Sanders has clawed back so much & why a rookie like Obama beat her. Atleast Bill was a great orator!
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2016, 10:27:24 PM »

The rest of America has just started tuning in.  A long speech is the best thing he could do.  It makes him look viable that the networks are covering him for a half an hour and that he is hitting all his talking points. 

Sanders isn't electable.

He may be the most electable Democrat in decades. With Clinton you won't independents, so you have already lost the general. Plus no connect with the youth to make the loss every bigger!

Sanders is the only hope now anyways!

Just plain wrong. If you are still here in October I will prove it to you.

You can't. Hillary is the most un-electable Democrat candidate I have seen in the last 30 odd years. Kerry, Gore, who lost were a MUCH MUCH better candidate than Hillary. There is reason why Sanders has clawed back so much & why a rookie like Obama beat her. Atleast Bill was a great orator!

Hillary is ten times the orator of Bernie. He usually comes off as an angry man.

She is horrible orator. I give credit where it is due. Bill was a good orator. Hillary is one of the worst. She can't connect with people & she SHOUTS with a tremendous highly frequency in a really stupid manner.

There are so many Youtube videos of Speech Experts & Journalists analyzing her problems & why he shouts - why she can't connect

Journalists Notice problem in Hillary for shouting -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzPwHm6RCfA
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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2016, 10:29:37 PM »

The rest of America has just started tuning in.  A long speech is the best thing he could do.  It makes him look viable that the networks are covering him for a half an hour and that he is hitting all his talking points.  

Sanders isn't electable.

He may be the most electable Democrat in decades. With Clinton you won't independents, so you have already lost the general. Plus no connect with the youth to make the loss every bigger!

Sanders is the only hope now anyways!

Winning the youth vote won't be enough to win the general, you know? He will alienate a lot of moderates and Independents in the suburbs with his stupid talk about A POLITICAL REVOLUTION (which isn't happening anyway). And while we're at it: Trump is not electable either, but most of you guys already know that.

He is sweeping the independent vote. And he is winning moderate & even republicans. We have 1000's of Republicans changing their affiliation, people who have always voted GOP since Raegan. Bernie got 25% of the GOP vote in Vermont.

And the independents & moderates clearly want a POLITICAL REVOLUTION. 70-80% of the country is anti-establishment & big sweeping changes!
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2016, 10:31:40 PM »

Come on, don't embarrass yourself, Hillary's electable. More than Bernie, not that Bernie can't win.

Also, please, Hillary as a "revolution?" She's literally running as a continuation of what we've been having for the last 8 years.

God, the hackery is being turned to 11...

Someone who sweeps the independents & young vote is not electable & but someone who gets 10-20% of the independent & youth vote is electable?

Hillary's votes are the committed Democrat vote. You can put a mad person & he will still get those votes in a general
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2016, 10:34:30 PM »

Well one prediction was right : we got a bunch of butthurt Clinton fans tonight! Cheesy

Yep, real butthurt that she's on track to win ONLY 46 states and was defeated in Sanders' second best state that everyone knew would go for him by big margins but only after defeating him in his third best state, giving her 385 delegates (8%) of the total to Sanders' 29 delegates (less than 1%).
So much despondence. Quaking in our boots.
She has 22 Delegate to 21 Delegate. Those are super delegates, some of whom have switched to Bernie & these people go to whoever is the leader.
Super delegates are not cast in votes. It is very dishonest & disgusting to see such lies being said & Super-Delegates being confused.

After today Likely result -
Hillary - 29
Bernie - 34

Everyone knows this is not a delegate thing, but a psychological thing
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2016, 10:39:23 PM »

Well one prediction was right : we got a bunch of butthurt Clinton fans tonight! Cheesy

Yep, real butthurt that she's on track to win ONLY 46 states and was defeated in Sanders' second best state that everyone knew would go for him by big margins but only after defeating him in his third best state, giving her 385 delegates (8%) of the total to Sanders' 29 delegates (less than 1%).
So much despondence. Quaking in our boots.
She has 22 Delegate to 21 Delegate. Those are super delegates, some of whom have switched to Bernie & these people go to whoever is the leader.
Super delegates are not cast in votes. It is very dishonest & disgusting to see such lies being said & Super-Delegates being confused.

After today Likely result -
Hillary - 29
Bernie - 34

Everyone knows this is not a delegate thing, but a psychological thing

Unpledged supers are firmly behind Clinton and will never leave her side. Bernie has like 2 congressional endorsements to her like 300+

Super-Delegates & Delegates are not the same. They switch & always have. Anyone who doesn't believe so is living in his or her own wonderland.

No morals Hillary hacks have? When they loose, they play all stuff, hey he did a little less among this group & we have Super-delegates & the rigged establishment.

I have never seen such ingrate, sore losers. Even Trump supporters accept defeats more easily than this.
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2016, 10:42:28 PM »

Hillary was crushed tonight. The polls were showing it something like 55%-45%, as the predictions from earlier today here showed.

Yes it's New Hampshire, but then again look at how much establishment support she has, look at how marginal Bernie was supposed to be months ago. You can't dismiss this. Whatever Clinton's doing, it's not working-- and what Sanders is doing, is working. His message of political revolution is resonating. Her message of caution is not resonating.
These early states are too white, too liberal and far too few people. Hillary is gonna dominate Bernie in 3 weeks. Super Tuesday baby!

Bernie is at 39% in national polls to her 51%-- before tonight. Another week of positive news coverage and name recognition for him can easily net him another 5%-- then the national polls are tied. What then? It's over whose message resonates more, and clearly, his is.

My biggest fear is that they'll try to go hard negative now and it'll backfire on them. His message resonating more is the obvious point.

Quinnipac was at 44-42
Reuters at 48-45.

2% behind in one & 3% behind in another. So he may well come close to taking the lead. Most of these 12% lead polls had Sanders winning 9-10% but he should win 22% odd.

I am not sure which is right, maybe these guys are wrong.
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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2016, 10:42:52 PM »

Is CNN lying with this delegate count then?

http://www.cnn.com/election

429 Clinton
 50 Sanders


Clinton News Network? Come one?
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2016, 10:51:48 PM »

Someone who sweeps the independents & young vote is not electable & but someone who gets 10-20% of the independent & youth vote is electable?

Hillary's votes are the committed Democrat vote. You can put a mad person & he will still get those votes in a general

I didn't say Bernie was unelectable, per se, but that Hillary is more electable. Bernie would beat Trump easily, I think. And maybe Cruz.

Maybe I'm wrong, but Hillary's gender, last name, establishment loyalists, and the fact she doesn't call herself a "socialist" makes her more electable than Bernie. She'd do much better with moderates and probably a bit better with women.


Wow, what an intelligent, convincing argument!

Disgusting person you are. Hillary hacks, morally bankrupt who are retarded & can make only personal attacks!

Uh...

Here is my argument? Which support will come to the Democrat party regardless of whoever is the candidate? Hillary's base - The establishment, African American, Hispanics - They will come to the Dems regardless of whoever is the candidate.

Bernie's base of huge independents & young people(who don't vote) is a new addition for the Dems making a winning coalition. Hillary's base IMO any Dem Candidate will get. I think this is why Sanders is doing much better vs GOP in all polls.

Maybe I am wrong, this is my line of thinking - Cheers! Ron Paul was my GOP guy in 08 & 12 even if I think his economic policies are wrong. Rand IMO is not as big a libertarian as Ron & I don't like his Economic policies even more but by far my favourite candidate in the GOP -

Sad he quit. His views of anti-War, Audit the fed, against Racism, for legalizing Marijuana, protecting  IP rights & individual freedom was similar to Bernie. We are getting a lot of Ron Paul supporters.

Are you going to vote Cruz?
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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2016, 11:50:25 PM »

Sore losers & such undignified people - Can't even take a loss properly.

Doing around 61% in DD (Sanders). Let's hope Nevada bring a surprise.

There is a debate on 11th & I think MSNBC is planning to add a Townhall meet on 18th as well.
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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2016, 11:51:44 PM »

Kinda surprised at this result. Most excellent.

Yawn. It does nothing to change the course in a significant way.

Sanders got a significant win IN ONE OF THE WHITEST STATES IN THE COUNTRY, this is fact.

Fixed.

Yep!

Even so, Clinton only won non whites by 4%.

Clinton 51, Sanders 49 as per the latest, literally tied now.
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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2016, 12:35:12 AM »

Someone who sweeps the independents & young vote is not electable & but someone who gets 10-20% of the independent & youth vote is electable?

Hillary's votes are the committed Democrat vote. You can put a mad person & he will still get those votes in a general

I didn't say Bernie was unelectable, per se, but that Hillary is more electable. Bernie would beat Trump easily, I think. And maybe Cruz.

Maybe I'm wrong, but Hillary's gender, last name, establishment loyalists, and the fact she doesn't call herself a "socialist" makes her more electable than Bernie. She'd do much better with moderates and probably a bit better with women.

Here is my argument? Which support will come to the Democrat party regardless of whoever is the candidate? Hillary's base - The establishment, African American, Hispanics - They will come to the Dems regardless of whoever is the candidate.

Bernie's base of huge independents & young people(who don't vote) is a new addition for the Dems making a winning coalition. Hillary's base IMO any Dem Candidate will get. I think this is why Sanders is doing much better vs GOP in all polls.

Maybe I am wrong, this is my line of thinking - Cheers! Ron Paul was my GOP guy in 08 & 12 even if I think his economic policies are wrong. Rand IMO is not as big a libertarian as Ron & I don't like his Economic policies even more but by far my favourite candidate in the GOP -

Sad he quit. His views of anti-War, Audit the fed, against Racism, for legalizing Marijuana, protecting  IP rights & individual freedom was similar to Bernie. We are getting a lot of Ron Paul supporters.

Are you going to vote Cruz?

Nope, not voting for Cruz. I'm already on the Gary Johnson 2016 Hype Train!

I agree that Bernie will bring in some voters that Hillary won't--sure. But so will Hillary--lots of moderate Democrats would probably vote for someone named Clinton, but not a self-identified socialist.

And I wouldn't be surprised to see slightly higher female turnout for The First Female PresidentTM. I wish I lived in a country where this wasn't the case, but to lots of people that's a big selling point. A female president would be nice, but we need a good president. I guess it's a generation gap, though--I mean, people my age will certainly see multiple female presidents, more minority presidents, probably even a gay president! Which is why younger women, and younger people in general, tend to support Sanders. But I think this matters to the older women. Not that they wouldn't turn out for Bernie, but they'll probably turn out for Hillary better.



Oh, and...

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I'm not better than you--probably worse, actually--but I'm not as hypocritical about it.

Thanks.

Yea I know a lot of Paul supporters are going for Johnson.

See the deal is the people who are moderate Democrats & who want a female president, etc - These  are the people who always vote, most Democrats. So I see any Dummy Democrat candidate getting these votes. I am not sure they won't vote for a socialist against this GOP group.

But the people who can bring that huge turnout for a female President, young men, women, Independents are very less likely to vote. They consider her dishonest & incompetent. This is my line of thought.

You can see how Sanders is helping boost turnout. He did the same in Vermont, doubled it or so.

Anyways cheers - I like the Green Party over Hillary, same case like you!
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« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2016, 12:46:43 AM »

I wonder what will be the reaction of Hillaryhacks if Sanders wins Nevada or comes very close like Iowa? We have been hearing how he can not connect with the hispanics!!!!

Only 10 days & 1 Debate & 1 Townhall meeting before that!
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