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  WOW. Before the "Bernie Bro," Clinton supporters created the "Obama boy." (search mode)
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« on: February 08, 2016, 10:36:38 AM »

If you follow Matt Bruenig at all, you’d know by now that the idea of the “Bernie Bro” is a complete myth. Indeed, poll after poll shows that the perceived “gender” gap is really nothing more than an age gap. Sanders polls much better than Clinton with young women. It’s like this entire primary is just old Democrats telling young Democrats to get off their lawn. ​

So, Sanders was recently forced to condemn mean sexist people on the internet. Yet, as Gloria Steinem says that young women support Bernie because they are just boy crazy, Clinton is not called to condemn her sexist supporters. And when Madeline Albright tells people that “there is a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other out,” Clinton does not apologize. In fact, she just laughed.

And if you think the Bernie Bro thing is just a creation by the internet, well, the Clinton campaign has officially adopted it…


So where DID this idea that Sanders supporters are super sexist come from? Let’s ask Tom Watson, circa 8 years ago...

The messiah complex in Obama scares the hell out of me - as does his campaign's casual acceptance of sexism so easily in order to win...

— Tom Watson (@tomwatson) February 10, 2008
Wait, it gets worse, yall...

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Yes, that is the Rebecca Traister, the same person who wrote this long essay about bernie bros, talking about sexist “Obama Boys.”

And here is Kaili Joy Gray, writing right here at Daily Kos

But I am sad.  I am sad that I will not get to vote for Hillary in November.  And, at the risk of opening myself up to accusations of racism, I will even admit that I'm sad that once again, it would appear that a black man gets there first.  First to vote, first to be elected, first to the Supreme Court.  I don't deny the importance of it; it would be nice, though, if just once, a woman could break through first.

LOL. I guess she will have to re-up this post and just substitute “black” for “Jewish.”

Let’s all go back to pretending like we know that ALL candidates have mean supporters online. And let’s stop listening to same people who tried to silence us in 2008 tell us how sexist we are because we don’t support your preferred candidate. Ok?

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/8/1481627/-WOW-Before-the-sexist-Bernie-Bro-Clinton-supporters-created-the-sexist-Obama-boy-No-seriously?_=2016-02-08T05:17:11-08:00

Looks like Clinton did the same thing in 2008, with Obama boys & called him sexist, a repeat strategy!
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2016, 10:48:48 AM »

This forum isn't a blog. If you want to convince people that the sexist and insulting Twitter posts from Sanders supporters are all Clinton lies, then you'd probably best stay in the diary section at Daily Kos.

Sexist posts should always be condemned. I condemn it. I have not seen such posts & I believe that apart from stray incidents such things do not happen.

What i feel is that, it is important to know that there is a pattern to all this

Bill Clinton today attacked using these things, DNC Data breach, Wall Street & what not. It is a wonderful tactic, which was used during Obama's tenure too
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2016, 08:40:08 PM »

Anyways, Berniebros are a vocal minority. Try to prove me wrong if you want.

Probably 1-2%? I don't know, Hillary hacks are huge in number & morally bankrupt. The things they support are unbelievable. Anyone who makes sexist remarks should be condemned but the interesting fact is Hillary did the same with Obama - "Obama boys".

Is it a pattern? Does she want to play the victim card? Helpless attacked woman card?
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2016, 07:23:45 AM »

Glenn Greenwald on Jan 31st - The "Bernie Bros" Narrative is a cheap campaign tactic

Just as neocons have long sought to exploit “anti-Semitism” accusations as a means of deterring and delegitimizing criticisms of Israel (thus weakening and trivializing the ability to combat that very real menace), Clinton media supporters are cynically exploiting serious and disturbing phenomena and weaponizing them as tools for the Clinton campaign. Online abuse in general, and toward specific groups, is a very real and serious problem; it is not a tool to be used to advance the political empowerment of Hillary Clinton by smearing Sanders supporters as particularly guilty of it.

The concoction of the “Bernie Bro” narrative by pro-Clinton journalists has been a potent political tactic — and a journalistic disgrace. It’s intended to imply two equally false claims: (1) a refusal to march enthusiastically behind the Wall Street-enriched, multiple-war-advocating, despot-embracing Hillary Clinton is explainable not by ideology or political conviction, but largely if not exclusively by sexism: demonstrated by the fact that men, not women, support Sanders (his supporters are “bros”); and (2) Sanders supporters are uniquely abusive and misogynistic in their online behavior. Needless to say, a crucial tactical prong of this innuendo is that any attempt to refute it is itself proof of insensitivity to sexism if not sexism itself (as the accusatory reactions to this article will instantly illustrate).

To put it simply: if you really think that Sanders supporters are particularly abusive online, that says a great deal about which candidate you want to win, and nothing about Sanders supporters. If you spend your time praising Clinton and/or criticizing Sanders, of course you personally will experience more anger and vitriol from Sanders supporters than Clinton supporters.

Conversely, if you spend your time praising Sanders, you will experience far more anger and vitriol from Clinton supporters. If you spend your time criticizing Trump, you’ll think no faction is more abusive than Trump supporters. If you’re an Obama critic, you’ll conclude that his army of devoted worshippers is uniquely toxic. And if you opine that the original Star Trek series is overrated, you’ll be able to write a column about the supreme dark side of nerds, armed with numerous horrifying examples.

https://theintercept.com/2016/01/31/the-bernie-bros-narrative-a-cheap-false-campaign-tactic-masquerading-as-journalism-and-social-activism/
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2016, 09:32:25 AM »

Rachel Maddow interviews Hillary - I get attacks from both Sanders & Clinton camp 50/50. I see no difference, why don't you call your supporters out? Will you give the transcripts?

https://theintercept.com/2016/01/31/the-bernie-bros-narrative-a-cheap-false-campaign-tactic-masquerading-as-journalism-and-social-activism/
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