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RaphaelDLG
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« on: May 31, 2016, 03:31:40 PM »

Females are used to this type of stuff. It's par for the course to have to deal with it, especially in politics. Hillary knows that many men are threatened by her intelligence, power and strength, that's just how it is.

Along with this Bernie "revolution" that he continues bantering on about, there also needs to be a revolution in consciousness towards the female role in society. And that is what will happen if Hillary becomes President. I believe that society as a whole will benefit by it because more females will be empowered to become all that they can be. It's a powerful inspiration that Hillary will be sending out, and I can't wait to see the day.

Bahahaha.  And I say that as a Clinton supporter.
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2016, 11:18:41 PM »

Yeah, I call BS that someone, let alone multiple people, at a Hillary for president rally rope line said to hrc's face that they might not vote for her because she's a woman.

I'm sure millions of morons think like that, but nobody in that scenario said that.
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2016, 01:40:25 AM »

Why is it so unbelievable that people would say this?  Some celebrities are willing to straight up say to the media that they won't vote for a female nominee:

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In a March 2016 CNN poll when asked if the country was ready for a female president, 19% of respondents said no.  This question is often a more effective way of getting a sense of the level of opposition to electing a female president than bluntly asking "would you vote for a qualified female presidential candidate?"
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/04/politics/female-president-poll-results-cnn/index.html

The current numbers of 80% ready/19% not ready are considerably better than in 2008.  At that time, only 67% felt the country was ready and 32% thought it was not ready for a female president.

1 in 5 voters thinking the country won't elect a woman is a minority, but it certainly isn't super rare.  It's easy to believe Clinton has encountered some of these voters.

I don't see TI at any Clinton rallies, and he didn't say it to her face.  Saying stuff to people's face takes an amount of balls that is in most situations beyond human instinct.
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2016, 01:44:57 AM »

Why is it so unbelievable that people would say this?  Some celebrities are willing to straight up say to the media that they won't vote for a female nominee:

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In a March 2016 CNN poll when asked if the country was ready for a female president, 19% of respondents said no.  This question is often a more effective way of getting a sense of the level of opposition to electing a female president than bluntly asking "would you vote for a qualified female presidential candidate?"
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/04/politics/female-president-poll-results-cnn/index.html

The current numbers of 80% ready/19% not ready are considerably better than in 2008.  At that time, only 67% felt the country was ready and 32% thought it was not ready for a female president.

1 in 5 voters thinking the country won't elect a woman is a minority, but it certainly isn't super rare.  It's easy to believe Clinton has encountered some of these voters.

I don't see TI at any Clinton rallies, and he didn't say it to her face.  Saying stuff to people's face takes an amount of balls that is in most situations beyond human instinct.

Is there a point somewhere you would like to make?

What I said at the top of the page - that the anecdote seems dubious.  Ultimately, it's a very minor point.

Yeah, I call BS that someone, let alone multiple people, at a Hillary for president rally rope line said to hrc's face that they might not vote for her because she's a woman.

I'm sure millions of morons think like that, but nobody in that scenario said that.
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2016, 02:19:42 AM »

Yeah, I call BS that someone, let alone multiple people, at a Hillary for president rally rope line said to hrc's face that they might not vote for her because she's a woman.

I'm sure millions of morons think like that, but nobody in that scenario said that.

I fail to understand why you think it matters whether someone said this to Hillary's face or just thought it. The fact that most of us know that plenty of people think like this is bad enough.

If so, this article is more of a puff piece where her campaign tries to play up the sexism angle sympathetically rather than a genuine window in to a candidate's soul as it is being presented.  If so, it wouldn't terribly offend me or make me run into Trump's arms by any stretch.  Interesting and relevant to consider, though.
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2016, 12:41:27 AM »

To anyone who thinks that Republicans (in large numbers) will be voting against Hillary Clinton because she is a woman, do you think they would vote against Joni Ernst for the same reason? Republicans who oppose Clinton will overwhelmingly do so for the same reason they opposed Obama: she is liberal.
She doesn't have to be a liberal. She's a Democrat. That alone as a Republican disqualifies her along with 85-90% of the rest of the Republican Party. Gender matters for nothing. Ideology does.

It's the same reason these red avatars think that Sarah Palin is "stupid." She's a Republican and they'd never vote Republican. It's just convenient for them to pull out the woman card with Hillary!

Sarah Palin straight up IS stupid, though.  The lady went on Glenn Beck and couldn't name any founding fathers and thought Africa was a country.

People like Nicki Haley or Olympia snowe might be wrong on the issues but are not complete disgraces/mental midgets who are manifestly unqualified like Palin.
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