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Virginiá
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« on: October 18, 2018, 12:37:08 PM »

i could see some pub seats going in nj if dems win big in the house delegation and the commission wants to protect incumbents. possibly ungerrymandered atlanta seats if abrams wins, and nc if the gop can’t go crazy with the lines anymore. some seat in the detroit area will go, balderson’s district could become even/d-leaning with ohio’s ballot initiative, and ny-22 might get chopped up (it will be some upstate district)

Could they even adequately protect the number of Democrats that seem to be on track to winning (10-11)? NJ is a state where Republicans tend to do fairly well downballot when a Democrat is in the White House, like wayyy over-performing the presidential results, so any good map that ensures a certain high # of Dem seats would seem to require being more practical and less greedy.

There is a initiative on the ballot this year that establishes a commission over redistricting. Its members are prominent statewide elected officials and the majority/minority leaders of the legislature. So it is not independent, but multi-partisan - maps need to be agreed to by members of both sides. If they are not agreed, then the old Legislature+Gov route can pass a map, but it only holds for 4 years. This initiative is endorsed by both sides (Dems see it as reform, reps see it as reform that still has them hold power), so will pass overwhelmingly.

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It already passed overwhelmingly. It was on the ballot in the primary.
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Virginiá
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2018, 12:52:47 PM »
« Edited: October 18, 2018, 01:00:56 PM by Virginiá »

Oryxslayer how well would Democrats do on this map in 2014? The House PV was D+2 in NJ in that midterm. Republicans won it by a bit over 1 point in 2010. I just feel like going by PVI doesn't do the real environment justice. PVI in NJ is like the best-case scenario.
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Virginiá
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2018, 01:16:58 PM »

Cooper’s best shot at survival is to see if his people can get an independent commission on the 2020 ballot that prioritizes keeping counties whole

Does TN have ballot initiatives?

No idea, but if they don’t, bye-bye Cooper

He's done. Tennessee doesn't allow any sort of citizen-initiated statutes or amendments.
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Virginiá
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2018, 03:35:45 PM »

How does a 14D - 3R map perform under a 2014 scenario?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections_in_Illinois,_2014

House popular vote: 51.42% (D) - 48.58% (R)
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Virginiá
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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2018, 11:25:45 AM »

Wouldn't MN Ds be punished if they passed an overly obvious gerrymander?

Were Republicans punished for doing this in Michigan, North Carolina, Ohio, and Georgia?
Question: is MN the same as MI, NC, OH, and GA?

No one will care. Most people don't even know what gerrymandering is, aside from maybe hearing the word and vague descriptions occasionally.
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