Is it time to impeach Trump?

[Virginiá]

A Republican should sit in the White House, following Trump. Changing parties is not acceptable, because the country voted for a GOP Presidency. They didn't vote for President Pelosi. So if we move down the line of succession, it should be a Republican.

I'd support another Republican just to avoid the insane level of fighting that would come with a Democrat taking over. However, I would note that I have been against the electoral college for years, and Trump is the 2nd Republican in a row to become president against a plurality of the people, and considering the margin Clinton won the PV by, it is a completely valid argument for Democrats to say the country voted for their leadership.

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As for the topic - we need to take time and care to collect evidence and build a strong case before pushing forward with something like that. Reading various liberal sites like DailyKos comments, I think that is lost on some of them.

[Virginiá]

Certainly but under the system we have, Trump won the electoral college and that's how he's the legitimate president. By extension I feel that all things being equal, the GOP is entitled to hold the White House because that system has dominated who we elect President. The Democrats did win the popular vote but the constitutional system says the GOP won.

That said most things point to Pence taking over. He's doing quite the effort to inoculate himself.

If we grant legitimacy strictly based on the system/constitution itself, wouldn't the legitimate option be a Speaker Pelosi in this scenario? Just like Democrats have gotten screwed out of the presidency twice in the past 17 years due to the electoral college, Republicans would get screwed out of the presidency because they all got behind a blatantly obvious corrupt, incompetent simpleton. I just don't think it is fair to say Democrats must respect the idea of the electoral college but not the line of succession. In this situation, it is entirely the GOP's fault that they would be losing control of the White House, and with little to fight back with due to losing the popular vote by millions of votes. Rules would be rules, after all.

[Virginiá]

I've never really decided on 2000, tbh. Florida was really an interesting case. However, 2016 was a huge mess. Putting together the facts that Russia intervened to tilt the election towards Trump (an issue which is currently exacting a massive toll on his presidency so far), and that Clinton won the popular vote decisively, I'm just saying there is a strong argument (imo) that a Democratic Speaker ascending to the White House would be a fair decision. Now, as I said, I don't think it'd be a good one necessarily, mainly because I don't want to enrage a huge portion of the country and damage our institutions further, but the election last year was very..sketchy, to put it bluntly.

Tbh, it's very hard for me to even debate this. I'm simply too biased. I despise the electoral college not only in theory but in its practice during my lifetime, and this doesn't even count my feelings of last year's election.