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« on: April 21, 2016, 12:06:53 AM »
« edited: April 21, 2016, 12:12:20 AM by Virginia »

I went rambling on about this the other day. I'll requote:

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Simply put, it's stupid.
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2016, 10:11:48 AM »
« Edited: April 21, 2016, 10:43:12 AM by Virginia »

She's a hawk who wants endless wars. She supports a no fly zone where Russian planes are flying. She wants regime change against Assad while he's fighting Al Qaeda and ISIS. She voted for Kyl-Lieberman. She repeated all of the Bush administration talking points and voted against a diplomatic solution to Iraq.

She supports deporting child refugees. She supports expanding H-1Bs. She pressured other countries to frack. She's against $15 an hour minimum wage, except when she claims she was always for it. She lies. She was totally against gun control 8 years ago and is totally for it now.

She pushed for NAFTA, Panama trade, and called TPP the gold standard, but also at other times claimed to be against them.

She had top secret classified information on her server. The Clinton foundation took $10 million from Saudi Arabia and she approved selling them billion in  arms. She took lots of money from Wall Street, and opposes reinstating Glass Steagall. She supports the death penalty. She's open to entitlement reform. She supported DADT, DOMA, and didn't support SSM until 2013.  

I really could go on.

I bet you could go on and on.

My whole post was about choosing the lesser evil, and all those perceived problems (not even going to debate you on them), minus the email server bs, Cruz/most Republican candidates are likely to have. Trump is exempt from some of those but he has an entirely different set of problems. The point was, you get 2 real choices this November - Clinton or <Cruz/Trump (most likely)>. If you gave a sh!t about any of the issues you said, you wouldn't go helping a Republican get elected because you'd end up worse off than if you just stowed your pride and went with the flow.

Your response was exactly what I'd expect from you. You just hate Hillary, which is the kind of thing I was talking about. People voting based on their emotions and not the issues.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2016, 11:14:01 AM »

One day he's going to snap out of it and it will be like when North Koreans escape and have to go through a long phase where they gradually come to grips with the fact that the world isn't anywhere near as f**ked up and anti-Korean and evil as the Kims made them believe.  I remember reading a story once about a Chinese girl who had never even heard of Tiananmen Square until she came to America for college, and spent an entire weekend on the internet in tears as she found out just how much the Chinese government had hidden from her and lied to her for her entire life.  It will be a sight to behold.

jfern after the bernie fog clears, where he realizes he no longer has to donate $27 every time Bernie wins/loses a primary:

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