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Virginiá
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« on: January 17, 2016, 12:35:46 AM »

Hasn't Utah been fairly Republican since statehood?

Not really.  They only became a Republican state during the Eisenhower administration and even then local level Democrats did fine until recently.  Zioneer could wax poetic on this though Tongue

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party_strength_in_Utah

Do you mean like cities and such, or state?

Because for state government, Utah Democrats are symbolic only. It would take a very big genuine change in the public opinion of Democrats or a massive, all-encompassing scandal of biblical proportions for Republicans to bring their numbers up.
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2016, 08:43:13 PM »

Does Atlas really think that every state will eventually be a solid blue (in normal talk) state?

EDIT: Except for Colorado and Iowa, which will soon be 80% GOP.  Maybe Michigan will follow suit eventually as well.

Not at all.  In terms of which states are trending to which party over the 20-30 year long run, this is my assessment.  Gray = trend unclear:



Why Utah and Idaho, though? They are, to quote Romney, severely conservative (or at least severely Republican).

Also, why Illinois to GOP?
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2016, 11:58:04 PM »

I expect Mormons to trend Dem as the Republicans get more populist over time.  This obviously doesn't mean UT and ID will be Democratic states, but more like 55% R than 65-70% R by the 2030's.

As for IL, Chicago's economic troubles will worsen, leading to population loss relative to the rest of the state.  As unions become less relevant, Republicans will finally break through with the urban working class there.

Fair enough. Although, I can't really comment one way or the other on UT/ID. IL sounds plausible with population loss and the dissolution of the relevancy of unions, but I can only see this as a very long-term transformation, and that is assuming any number of things doesn't happen to reverse their woes or otherwise imperil the GOP in the state.

Btw Skill, I really like your posts!
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