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« on: April 24, 2005, 06:05:52 PM »

None of those countries are Communist because Communist States or Communist Country cannot exist they are contridictiary terms.
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2005, 07:00:10 PM »
« Edited: April 24, 2005, 07:08:17 PM by went that way »

You are correct in implying that these countries are not communist, but they are certainly socialist. Of course, I think Democrats are socialists.
Democrats aren't socialist of current democratic congressmen olny two are members of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) Major Owens (D-NY) and Danny Davis (D-IL).  There is a third member I think you can geuss who he is. There are many progressives.
Here's an attempt to describe Socialism by Redstar2000
http://www.redstar2000papers.com/theory.php?subaction=showfull&id=1082900868&archive=&cnshow=headlines&start_from=&ucat=&
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2005, 07:40:51 PM »

How is the Democratic Party a socialist political party explain.
That's cool. 3 US Congressmen are members of a socialist group Tongue
after 2006 2 Major Owens is retiring in 06.
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2005, 08:06:46 PM »

How is the Democratic Party a socialist political party explain.

Well, they support substantial wealth redistribution.

Now, I know you might counter and point to Republican 'support' for programs such as Medicare and Medicaid. Now, people assume we support these programs, and we talk we do, but really, we would like to eradicate them. It's part of the long term agenda, I'd say.

And yes, we have tolerated terrible non-flat tax rates for too long, but I think we can fix that in the next four years or so.

Meanwhile, inflation will effectively do away with the federal minimum wage.

As spending is cut, corporate taxes should be abolished, leading to lower prices. All taxes other than the income tax should then be repealed.

"Now, I know you might counter and point to Republican 'support' for programs such as Medicare and Medicaid. Now, people assume we support these programs, and we talk we do, but really, we would like to eradicate them. It's part of the long term agenda, I'd say."
What your effectively saying is the government will no longer fund your medical bills but that corparations going to do that.  If that takes place it will be in a disaster people would not be able to get medical treatment because it would cost to much.

"And yes, we have tolerated terrible non-flat tax rates for too long, but I think we can fix that in the next four years or so."
What that means is that ceo Bill Gates he will pay as much taxes as that Bum on the street.  I don't have to go on why that will be a disaster.

"Meanwhile, inflation will effectively do away with the federal minimum wage."
Now your saying workers will be payed less and less while Ceos are payed more and more.  Corparations don't care about workers, they care about profits.

"As spending is cut, corporate taxes should be abolished, leading to lower prices. All taxes other than the income tax should then be repealed."
How is the government going to pay for anything if it doesn't tax corparations.  Also if you abolish all other taxes besides income the income tax would have a magor jump just to have enough money to pay for it's operations.

As one guy(I can't remember his name) but he said the Dems realise that the restrictions are needed to make sure that the Capitalists don't destroy each other and undermine the workers and the poor. 
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2005, 08:38:27 PM »

"By cutting spending roughly in half. Of course, even if we did raise the income tax, it wouldn't matter, because products would be cheaper."  Why would it cut spending in half how do you think it funds all those troops over seas and those ballistic missle sites.

"By cutting spending roughly in half. Of course, even if we did raise the income tax, it wouldn't matter, because products would be cheaper."  The products would be cheaper but the taxes will be forced to sky rocket to fund the things mentioned above.

"Democrats by its proper name: socialism."
Lets call New Labour Socialism too.  Most of the things called for by the mainstream Democrats is Progressive not Socialist.
Note: I'm in little bit of a rush because it's so late so I'm not answering all the comments at the moment.
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2005, 08:51:35 PM »

I don't know much about New Labor, but the Democrats aren't progressive at all - at least, not by my subjective definition. I guess anyone's take on 'progress' is just what he wants to happen, right?

New Labour are like the New Democrats slightly more rightwing then the Old labour or in the Dems place the Progressive Majority but (olny the Dems) more left wing than the small rightwing groups.

Your trying to simplify the meaning of Socialism course than we can always turn to RedStar2k

"I guess you folks can see why I called it an "attempt" to define "socialism"...it's a far fuzzier term than communism." - RedStar2000
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2005, 05:34:26 PM »

None of these countries are communist. The world only has five communist states:

-China
-Cuba
-Laos
-North Korea
-Vietnam
There is no such thing as a "Communist state" it is a contradictiary term.  None of these countries even call themselves "Communist States" they all call themselves Socialist but most of them aren't even that.
China, Laos, and Vietnam have all adopted liberal economic policies so they aren't even Socialist.  Niether is North Korea or Cuba.  Cuba is half Socialist and North Korea never was any where near Socialism.
And after second check. Yes he is an open red, BRTD and Marxism would love this nut.

http://www.redstar2000papers.com
How long did it take you to figure that out StateRights?
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