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« on: February 02, 2016, 02:04:07 PM »

Do they only have a specific type of poll counted like FOX did, or do they count all? If they count all, here's what the averages look like, and who will be in as of today:

NameNational pollsNH Polls
Trump37.5831.95
Cruz16.7711.55
Rubio10.3111.35
Carson8.4623.25
Bush5.5388.8
Christie3.0777.6
Paul2.7693.6
Kasich2.511.8
Fiorina2.1923.7
Santorum0.5770.3
Gilmore0.1150

Cruz (won IA)
Trump (second place in IA)
Rubio (third place in IA)
Carson (fourth place in national polls)
Bush (fifth place in national polls, fifth place in NH polls)
Christie (sixth place in national polls, sixth place in NH polls)
Kasich (second place in NH polls)
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2016, 03:50:39 PM »

LOL at Carson wasting a spot still. Paul must be furious.

Even worse, Paul would probably get in if they didn't include polls from the beginning of January.
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2016, 04:52:14 PM »

Do they only have a specific type of poll counted like FOX did, or do they count all? If they count all, here's what the averages look like, and who will be in as of today:

NameNational pollsNH Polls
Trump37.5831.95
Cruz16.7711.55
Rubio10.3111.35
Carson8.4623.25
Bush5.5388.8
Christie3.0777.6
Paul2.7693.6
Kasich2.511.8
Fiorina2.1923.7
Santorum0.5770.3
Gilmore0.1150

Cruz (won IA)
Trump (second place in IA)
Rubio (third place in IA)
Carson (fourth place in national polls)
Bush (fifth place in national polls, fifth place in NH polls)
Christie (sixth place in national polls, sixth place in NH polls)
Kasich (second place in NH polls)


I'd assume they would place the podiums on stage based on NH polling? If so, it would look like this:

Carson Bush Cruz Trump Kasich Rubio Christie

If they base the stage order on national polling, this is the arrangement:

Kasich Bush Rubio Trump Cruz Carson Christie
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2016, 05:58:15 PM »

If they are basing this on Iowa, here's the stage lineup:

Christie Bush Rubio Cruz Trump Carson Kasich
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2016, 06:01:03 PM »

Is Carson even going to be in NH for this or is he still going to be doing his "laundry"??

Ya gotta have clean clothes for the debate.
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2016, 06:05:18 PM »

Is Carson even going to be in NH for this or is he still going to be doing his "laundry"??

Ya gotta have clean clothes for the debate.

LOL but honestly does anyone know if he's actually gonna show?

Probably; he outperformed the media's expectations in Iowa.
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2016, 11:01:14 PM »

At first I was happy they got rid of the undercard, but now I'm kind of upset.

Imagine a Sneed vs. Gilmore one on one debate. LOL

Exactly. Gilmore would move ahead of somebody in the polls finally.
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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2016, 07:12:35 PM »

Fiorina's twitter reveals that Romney, Gingrich and Cruz among others are pressuring ABC to quit it with the sexism.

Any respect I had for them left is gone.
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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2016, 09:22:43 PM »

SEXISM
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2016, 04:50:40 AM »

Who's excluded from the debate? Is it just Fiorina and Gilmore now?

Yes. Gilmore I could care less about, but excluding Fiorina is clear sexism that ABC should be ashamed of.

No it isn't. She's not doing well enough either nationally or in New Hampshire.

Yeah, they put out criteria. But it's not like there was a real mystery as to what that criteria would produce at the time of its release. ABC news knew it would likely exclude Fiorina.

Look, with only 8/9 candidates running, there's really no reason to have anything more than minimal criteria. You can fit 8 or 9 candidates on the stage just fine. Fiorina is an important voice as the only woman, and had Romney, Gingrich, Ayotte, Cruz, and Carson saying she should be included. For ABC to design the criteria it did and stick to it is Sexism - the only reason the criteria existed was to create an excuse to avoid a lawsuit.

I genuinely hope you're trolling at this point.
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