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« on: April 05, 2005, 06:33:33 PM »

Bredesen may have an ace in the hole with regards to competing against Hillary.  He'll take the Southern primaries with ease, including AR, and may do very well in NY, especially after they learn that he was born  a New York.
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2005, 06:48:15 PM »

If Bredesen can come in second in NY, especially if it is by a respectable margin, and sweep the South, he has a very good shot at getting the nomination.  He'd have the big 'MO' on his side heading into the West.
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2005, 07:54:42 PM »

Sharton is easily marginalized as a bull-horn carrying kook.  Bredesen, on the other hand, is not a kook, and to my knowledge, he leaves his bull-horn at home when making speeches.
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2005, 08:19:40 PM »

This could just as easily be about Bredesen's run for re-election as governor. If the state GOP tries to paint him as a partisan democrat, akin to the national party, it hurts his reelection chances  (although no one seems to be lining up to run against him). If he positions himself as different from Hillary Clinton, it will pretty much help him here.

Plus, Bredesen gets my appreciation for his statement against political dynasties. I'd been waiting for someone with clout to say that. Thanks, gov.




I take it that you are equally opposed to the number of Kennedy's that have been elected to the Senate, House, and Lt Governor.
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2005, 09:06:54 PM »

This could just as easily be about Bredesen's run for re-election as governor. If the state GOP tries to paint him as a partisan democrat, akin to the national party, it hurts his reelection chances  (although no one seems to be lining up to run against him). If he positions himself as different from Hillary Clinton, it will pretty much help him here.

Plus, Bredesen gets my appreciation for his statement against political dynasties. I'd been waiting for someone with clout to say that. Thanks, gov.




I take it that you are equally opposed to the number of Kennedy's that have been elected to the Senate, House, and Lt Governor.

Well, I think Ted has had plenty of time to make his stamp on the government- I wish he'd retire. I like what I know of Patrick, but I do not think he should run for senate while his father is in the Senate. Lt. Gov? Whatever. But, no, I am generally against people rising to power because a family member came before. That said, I'm sure I'll support Ford for Senate in 2006, although I hope his uncle goes to jail.




One of the Kennedy's was Lt Gov of Maryland, though she lost to Ehrlich  when she ran for the top spot.




Let me get this straight.  It's okay for Kennedys, generally speaking.  It's okay for the Fords, excepting John--naturally.  It's not okay for Clintons, since Hillary would lose in the General Election.  And, lastly, it's not okay for the Bushes, since Jeb could  theoretically win.  Your view isn't politically motivated, is it?   
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2005, 09:29:14 PM »

I'm just messing with you.  No harm meant.


As for Harold Ford Jr, I think that he is a really good guy.  However, coming from Memphis, the Ford family and their involvement in local politics can leave a very bad taste in your mouth.  It's very nepotistic.


While I don't think that Hillary can win the Presidency, I think she is well within her right to run, just as I felt it was fine for Dubya to run, and serve as President.  

Like it or not, political families have a decided edge in American politics.   Examples include Cuomo in NY, Kennedy in MA, Pryor in AR, Landrieu in LA, Ford in TN, Bush in TX/FL, and Casey in PA.   I'm sure there are many, many more from both parties.  

All that being said, I'm still a big supporter of Jeb.  '08 may not be his year, but I would definitely like to see him in the Whitie House at some point.
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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2005, 09:29:52 PM »

I will add that I believe, much to my chagrin, that Hillary will be the nominee because most voters are too lazy to look at candidates carefully and they tend to vote for the names they know. Don't confuse this for me wanting her to be the next nominee or president.






I agree!
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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2005, 09:30:55 PM »

By the way, which part of the state are  you in?
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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2005, 09:36:22 PM »

Hmmm.... The Clements had a little dynasty of their own in the Nashville area, didn't they?
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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2005, 10:05:53 PM »

Don't count on term limits.  We have them for the Shelby County Commissioners, though two of the Commission members are sueing to overturn the law.  They claim that they should have unrestricted right to run for office, even though voters passed the term limit law with an 80% majority.  Oh well!
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