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aross
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« on: October 02, 2016, 07:24:51 AM »

Fidesz and other right of center parties
Understatement of the year right here.
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2016, 01:01:05 PM »

Turnout projected at 45% (electoral commission). Nézőpont exit poll has 42% turnout, 5% Yes.
Government accepts threshold has not been reached but says referendum is still 'valid' (not that it ever had any legal meaning o/c).
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2016, 03:06:23 PM »
« Edited: October 03, 2016, 03:12:20 PM by aross »

Does anyone know where I can find the official results? (A website or something?)
http://www.valasztas.hu/en/ref2016/481/481_0_index.html

Final results*:

Eligible voters:  8 261 394
Votes cast: 3 587 173 (43.42%)
 - Invalid votes 223 252 (6.27%; 2.70% of eligible voters)
 - Valid votes 3 338 483 (93.73%; 40.41% of eligible voters)
   - Yes 55 555 [lol] (1.66%; 0.67% of eligible voters)
   - No 3 282 928 (98.34%; 39.74% of eligible voters)

*There are still 22349 uncounted postal votes shown, but that hasn't changed for a while. Who knows, never mind.

Any chance this weakens Orban and gives the opposition a chance to rebuild?

Hardly, this was always going to be irrelevant either way. If anything they'd better re-form their coalition (which on balance is likely, but by no means guaranteed) or Jobbik will surpass them. Though I still don't get why Ferenc 'We have fu**ed it up, and obviously been lying throughout the past two years' Gyurcsány's  little cult of all people are experiencing a mini-surge.
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2016, 05:46:15 PM »


Not saying I support the referendum, but it seems pretty busted that No would have won with less votes if the Yes vote turned out in more force. Even if Yes got every last vote up to that 50% turnout line it still would have been an easy No victory. Seems to me that the law should be that the winner gets at least 25% of the voter turnout (in a two way election at least), otherwise you could strategically stay home to deny the other side a victory.
To play grudge-bearing Scotsman for a moment, the '79 referendum, the first noteworthy example of this sort of quorum that springs to mind for me at least, still wouldn't have passed with a result like this. But when a third of the register is fictional in some places...

But yes, in general that is the 'cleanest' way of doing it, only problem is it doesn't work when there is no clear status quo on the ballot. 25% is awfully low though, a third perhaps - but that is essentially personal preference.
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