Realistically, what do you think people "with horrible politics" actually want?

[Taco Truck 🚚]

There are all kinds of people with "horrible politics".  I mean ultimately most people want a job, a place to live, a family, and just to be somewhat comfortable.

For example I don't think in the 1930s most Germans wanted to kill Jews.  They just wanted all the previous things I mentioned.  The problem is Hitler told them killing Jews was the only way to get those things.  That's the way demagoguery works.

That's why even when shown statistics that Mexican migrants are actually less likely to commit crimes than US citizens people still follow a man who calls them gang members and rapists.  The demagoguery just eventually completely removes any attachment to the real world and the people just live in this permanent fantasy world where rapist Mexicans and blacks are going to climb the walls of their gated community and murder their whole family and take their job if they don't build a wall, buy a gun, and abolish affirmative action.  Totally irrational but no more irrational than Germany in the 1930s.

[Taco Truck 🚚]

You brought up some good points but this is also what I am talking about. You made a derogatory judgment about the other side.

There is no "other side".  Mexican migrants are less likely to commit crimes than US citizens.  That is a fact.  Regardless of what political party you are a member of if you keep insisting these people drive up crime rates you are wrong.  That has nothing to do with me or judgments.  That is just a fact.  If you don't have facts you don't have a discussion.

What is it that you ultimately want?

The vast majority of us regardless of party want the same thing.  In my first post I listed those things.  It's just we all at times and to varying degrees get demagogued into various irrational thought processes.

[Taco Truck 🚚]

This exercise can be seen as vague but the ultimate question is how would they describe a world where they are no longer upset? How do they see it working? Why do they see people getting in their way? What happens to all the people who oppose them?  Do they actually think they will succeed? And also, what about yourself? Is there a world that you can imagine where your own butthurtedness is at least 50% alleviated? How long do you think they will take to get it? How long do you see you taking to get yours?

The problem with your questions is most people don't really know what they want.