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Joe Republic
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« on: April 05, 2005, 01:16:36 PM »

I think the electoral maps (red/blue states) are doing nothing but disunifying the country. I mean, does anyone care whether a state is 55-45 for Bush or Kerry? It's not like ALL New Yorkers are hippies or ALL Texans are rednecks or anything...

Very few New Yorkers are 'hippies', but most Texans are rednecks.

The country is disunified.  And polarized. I don't see that changing as long as the intolerant social agenda is front and center for the GOP. 

Well of course this country is polarized when people like you make statements like your first sentence right there.
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2005, 01:25:15 PM »

Anyway, as has already been said, looking at the electoral college map waaay oversimplifies things.  You might want to consider that there were more Republican voters in California in 2004 alone than there were Democratic voters in Massachusetts, Maryland, Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Rhode Island, Connecticut and Hawaii put together.
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2005, 01:25:30 PM »

But you can also look at it this way.  Those Republican voters in California are probably more liberal than most Southern voters who went for Kerry.

That's not really true at all. Maybe you think John Ford is more liberal than Frodo.

You can't base an argument on two specific cases.  Not every CA Republican is like John Ford, and not every VA Democrat is like Frodo, and you know it.
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2005, 01:34:36 PM »

Take a look at any of the southern Democrats here. They're not exactly conservative.

Well, using a sample of about 10 people, your evidence is certainly overwhelming.  Roll Eyes

If they voted for Bush, they obviously supported Bush. How liberal can they be?

If they voted for Kerry, they obviously supported Kerry. How conservative can they be?

Believe it or not, you don't actually have to be a liberal to vote for Kerry, or a conservative to vote for Bush.  It's not enshrined in law; plus neither candidate is a perfect spokesman for their ideologies.
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2005, 02:01:38 PM »

Your IQ of about 10 is certainly overwhelming. There is almost no geographic divide here whatsoever. The most liberal Republican is from North Carolina.

OK calm down.  My original point was actually saying much the same thing.  I know it's ridiculous to assume that if you're a Northeastern Democrat then you're automatically a liberal, or a moderate/conservative if you're from the South, and vice versa for the Republicans.  But there is a geographical divide along ideological lines within each party.  That's why we all talk about Dixiecrats in the South, or Rockefeller Republicans in the North.

Who you vote for says a lot about your ideology.

True, but it doesn't say everything.
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