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Joe Republic
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« on: July 05, 2012, 09:56:51 PM »

If I were the one with a terminal disease, I'd want all those people to give money to charity to fight the disease, or volunteer to work with sick people to make them feel better. Anything but prayer. It's just the laziest, most worthless thing one could do. But I guess it made the prayerful feel better about themselves.

Indeed.  It's a popular form of support because it doesn't involve donating any money or more than a few seconds of time, but you apparently still get that warm glowy feeling knowing that you've helped.  How have you helped, exactly?  That's irrelevant.
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2012, 04:42:13 AM »

A person who prays for someone else in a serious way has to make an effort; he/she devotes time to the other person and has to concentrate and focus on that person. A serious prayer requires dedication and compassion for another person.

And what does that actually achieve?
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2012, 09:31:24 PM »

A person who prays for someone else in a serious way has to make an effort; he/she devotes time to the other person and has to concentrate and focus on that person. A serious prayer requires dedication and compassion for another person.

And what does that actually achieve?
Are dedication and compassion for someone worthless to them?

Telling a person you're going to ask some spirit (or whatever 'God' is meant to be these days) to intervene in their predicament would be rather unhelpful and pointless, yes.  If what you mean to say is a simple "I'll be thinking of you", then just say so.
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2012, 09:33:39 PM »

For instance last year I was in Chicago at a Jesus Culture Conference. The final day of that conference it was like I was a walking prayer bullseye. The food court in the Target close by looked like a revival meeting with young people strewn across the floor because the presence of God came in to the area. Needless to say I didn't have lunch that afternoon iirc because I was one of the young people strewn on the floor. That was just the beginning of that wild day.

That was the most bizarre string of tortured syntax I have read all week.
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Joe Republic
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2012, 10:51:19 PM »

So then what on earth is the point?!  You talk about expressing dedication and compassion for a person in need, but not in a way that they even know about it?  Indirect financial assistance or voluntary work I could certainly understand, but that's not what 'prayer' is.
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2012, 11:22:33 PM »

You've really lost me now.
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2012, 12:21:58 AM »

Okay, so what comes after the prayer?  Something actually useful?
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