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Joe Republic
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« on: May 06, 2010, 02:39:28 AM »


We apologize for Napolitano.  She only got initially elected due to a three way general election in which she did NOT win a majority of the vote (just a narrow plurality) over a Republican candidate liked to Qwest (in that year slightly more toxic than being linked to AIG is today).

And what's your excuse for her landslide win four years later?

In any case, you deftly overlooked Bacon King's tacit reference to Evan Mecham, and I may as well throw Fife "crafts of unknown origin" Symington into the mix too.  As you well know, both nutcases ended their terms early in disgrace.
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2010, 04:01:09 AM »


That may be, but we're talking about Arizona, not Thailand here.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2010, 04:23:29 AM »

The Democrats gained a couple of Congressional seats in Arizona in 2006, as well as other offices.

Correct, the Democrats representing the Democratic Party did so.

Don't know why you decided to insert "Thailand," into this thread.  Was it just a matter of trying to change the subject?

What?  You're the one who started talking about the Democrat Party!  You tell me why you decided to insert Thai politics into a discussion about Arizona?!
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2010, 12:37:51 PM »

From the Seattle Times:

By Kyung M. Song

Seattle Times Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON — For the second time in three months, an unexpected event has opened up a plum job for U.S. Rep. Norm Dicks.

But this time, the Bremerton Democrat

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Hmm.

I suppose a certain poster at this forum would have us believe that the writer is referring to a party in Thailand.

Another poster would have us believe that anyone who disagrees is "dense."

Now, drop the stupidity or I'll post other examples!

Of course not, silly bean.  That example clearly describes a member of the U.S. Democratic Party.

If, on the other hand, it had described Norm Dicks as a "Democrat Representative" or something similar, then for some reason it would have been ascribing him to the Thai Democrat Party.  As everybody knows, there is no party in the U.S. in which "Democrat" is used as an adjective as well as a noun, so logically it could only be talking about the Thai party that shares a similar name.

Get it?
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2010, 02:02:19 AM »

Badger seems to have got it mixed up, but the rest of us have hopefully helped to educate you.
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2010, 02:38:44 AM »
« Edited: May 08, 2010, 02:40:20 AM by Joe Republic »

Badger seems to have got it mixed up, but the rest of us have hopefully helped to educate you.

Perhaps you might want to "educate" the gentleman (a 'progressive Democrat') who runs Pollster (used to be Mystery Pollster), who in his reported polls on the generic ballot uses the term "Democrat" as a party identifier.

I can cite many others if you want.

Being a noun in that context, it is therefore a correct usage.

Next example?
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2010, 10:03:23 PM »

The truth is that both terms 'Democrat party' and 'Democratic party' are used interchangeably.

Sure, but only among illiterate right-wingers.  The actual truth is that the term 'Democrat party' is not grammatically correct when describing the U.S. Democratic Party.  You can use it to describe the aforementioned Thai party, however.  A party in Romania as well, I believe.

I'm glad to have helped educate you!  It's always a pleasure to point out your errors, and it's lucky for me that the opportunity arises so often.  Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2010, 03:12:52 AM »
« Edited: May 09, 2010, 03:37:24 AM by Joe Republic »

Second, the truth is that both terms are used interchangeably, as I previously pointed out.

As I also previously pointed out, this is only the case among illiterate right-wingers.  To use the term "Democrat party" in the context of the U.S. Democratic Party is incorrect, quite simply.

"Mark at Pollster" used the noun correctly.

Again, I'm glad to be of help to you!  Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2010, 03:13:56 AM »

Teabagger is the inappropriate name to call Tea Partiers as well. If you're calling out pejoratives......

Who mentioned anything about a "pejorative"?  I'm merely correcting Carl's incorrect grammar; nothing more.
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2010, 11:08:09 PM »

Mark used the term in exactly the same way a I have.

No, not quite.  You see, in the American context, 'Democrat' can only be used as a noun, and not as an adjective.

"Mark" used it as a noun, whereas you used it as an adjective.

Once again, I'm glad to have provided you with this education.  Wink
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2010, 11:17:33 PM »

Teabagger is the inappropriate name to call Tea Partiers as well. If you're calling out pejoratives......

Who mentioned anything about a "pejorative"?  I'm merely correcting Carl's incorrect grammar; nothing more.

People have used the term Democrat instead of Democratic because they believe the party is no longer Democratic in nature. They are making the term "Democrat" be the label for liberals as a brand name. Rush or one of them explained it as that one day. Take that as you will.

Oh, I know the reason behind the attempt on behalf of the right wing to alter the English language.  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2010, 02:25:50 AM »

There are a couple of small (population wise) counties in Arizona that are heavily Democrat.

Here's a good example of where you're going wrong, Carl.  In that sentence, you used the noun 'Democrat' in a context where the adjective form (i.e. 'Democratic') should have been used instead.

Imagine if you had typed a sentence where you had described something as being "very doorknob" or "really teacup", and you'll understand what I mean.
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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2010, 02:42:52 AM »
« Edited: May 12, 2010, 02:53:23 AM by Joe Republic »

But I've merely pointed out your recurring mistake for you.  You even made my case for me by providing two quotes from Merriam-Webster that showed you the difference between the variants of the word!  Firstly in Reply #39 of this thread, proving that 'democrat' is a noun, and again in Reply #60 proving that 'democratic' is an adjective.  So now you certainly have no excuse for misusing the word again.

I'm not asking for you to thank me, or apologize, but you should at least accept that you were wrong.  Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2010, 03:19:17 AM »

But you cited a dictionary that confirms what we've been telling you!

Tell me, is the word at the end of the following sentence a noun or an adjective?

There are a couple of small (population wise) counties in Arizona that are heavily Democrat.
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