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Joe Republic
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« on: January 14, 2010, 12:22:50 AM »

No I'm not at all. He wasn't a troll, the moderators just decided they didn't like him. The clique-ish behavior of most of the posters here is pretty ridiculous. Having positions you dislike or choosing to express them in a way that doesn't really violate any concrete rules doesn't mean someone is a troll. Even if he called someone an idiot in the midst of a discussion, that doesn't count as trolling, and calling it a personal attack is a stretch. A lot of what he wrote was satirical or an attempt to stir the pot, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Unfortunately the mods around here are the posters least able to grasp humor that doesn't line up with their point of view. Once they labeled him a troll, every post he made was regarded as trollish. There was no way for him to defend himself without digging a deeper hole with people he was never going to catch a break from.



You're the definition of a troll. You spam, create ridiculous threads, and your early behavior should have gotten you banned within being here a few days.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.  I honestly don't intend that to seem patronizing, but your post and the full story (which most people don't know) really don't have much in common.
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Joe Republic
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2010, 01:33:07 AM »

Given the fact that you have so much knowledge that I don't, how would you expect me to think differently? All I can know is what I've read from his posts.

Hence why I didn't intend for my post to be taken as offensive or patronizing.  It's not your fault you guys don't know the full story with Hamilton and his buddies.

Apparently there was an issue with him abusing the reporting system, and obviously I can't speak to that. What I do know is that often he would post things that were not at all outside the bounds of what is acceptable and people would jump on him immediately.

Actually, there were numerous posts of his that were reported for very legitimate reasons, and of course were quickly deleted (and not just because he happened to be on the TrollList).  He tried to aggravate the situation by going on a post-reporting spree himself (many of which were fairly innocuous), but primarily because he felt there was some kind of double standard.  Hence why he was abusing the system.

How often has Dave himself actually posted his views on a particular poster, aimed directly at the offender?  That should tell you something if nothing else does.

Of course most people wouldn't provide any hard evidence when continuously rambling about his apparently unspeakable and evil behavior. They had a view of him, and they would pick apart any little thing he said in order to make him fit that view.

Given the fact that quite a few other posters also feel that he shouldn't have been banned, the case either isn't as clear cut as you make it out to be, or he did things that only a few people would know about.

Indeed, he and his friends have played you very well.
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Joe Republic
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2010, 01:33:48 AM »

Well, the mods are already going after Libertas (he's been warned for empty-quoting and making a thread similar to a Rochambeau thread, his was deleted, Rochambeau's wasn't). I think I'm next. This is going way too far.
after you it is me. Sad

Actually I've seen no indication that you're even under scrutiny right now.  Why do you have this impression?
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Joe Republic
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2010, 02:53:01 AM »
« Edited: January 14, 2010, 02:55:03 AM by Joe Republic »

In addition to the above, of the 79 posts Hamilton reported (yes, 79) only 32 were considered valid and relevant actions taken (although most of those were minor offenses by comparison).

It'd take a while to go through all the posts of Hamilton's that were reported, but I can assure you all that the overwhelming majority of them were reported for valid reasons.

Before you accuse the moderation team of being biased against Hamilton, Dave reviews many (if not most) of the reports himself.  Hence why he took the unprecedented step of giving him a dressing down in public, evidently due to having lost patience himself.
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