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twenty42
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« on: July 16, 2018, 08:55:47 PM »

Obama was good friends with a terrorist sympathizer and went to an anti-American church for 20 years...does this count for anything?
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twenty42
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2018, 04:24:58 AM »

well yes.never trump people are more annoying than anti-trump democrats

My point is that almost every Republican who is outraged beyond belief are the Republicans like Kasich or McCain or Flake or Hurd or the MSNBC "Republicans" who claimed they don't support Trump or didn't vote for him.

Even still, the outrage is a definite overreaction. I don't know what they wanted him to do. If he had refused to shake Putin's hand, they'd be criticizing him. If he punched Putin in the face, they'd be criticizing him. He has a cordial meeting...they criticize him.

If he started a war with North Korea, they'd go crazy. So then he talks to North Korea, and they go crazy. I asked a liberal friend what she wanted him to do about North Korea a few months ago. I laid out several different options, she said no to all of them. Then it struck me...she didn't want Trump to do anything. Her attitude was almost like saying, "Stay right here, but don't touch anything!"

That isn't the way the Presidency works. This isn't about North Korea or Russia, it's about Donald Trump. The Trump derangement syndrome on steroids.

This is the problem in a nutshell. I happen to agree with Newt that Trump stumbled badly on Monday and made a pretty big mistake in some of the words he chose. But I also believe that the never-ending criticism of Trump from Democrats, NeverTrump Republicans, and the MSM has sort of reached a point of diminishing returns.

These groups have spent every day since November 9, 2016 criticizing the way Trump breathes, sneezes, and sleeps, which makes their criticisms of Monday come across as typical noise that we are used to hearing every day. The denunciations of the summit from the latter two groups I mentioned would carry much more weight if those groups were less critical of the president in everyday life, but they will be looked upon as normal reactions in today’s political climate.

From the day he was elected, Trump’s foes went all-in on a strategy of universal condemnation and blind criticism of his every action. While this may have kept polarization strong and kept his approval ratings below 50%, it also somewhat robbed them of a chance to take advantage of a true Trump blunder such as what we saw on Monday.
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