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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« on: February 12, 2005, 01:20:40 AM »
« edited: February 12, 2005, 02:04:22 AM by nickshepDEM »

I know its a while off, but just for the hell of it lets do some SERIOUS predictions so we can look back 4 years from now, bump the thread, and say damn I was close or damn I was way off. (assuming we are still members)

*Pick a Presidential Candidate and Vice Presidential candidate for both parites and make a map.*

*President (both party's)
*Vice President (both party's)
*A map
*And if you want a little scenario type statement.


(P.S. Please, Please, Please only make ONE so the page doesnt get to cluttered with a bunch of bullsh**t maps.)
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2005, 02:02:16 AM »



Democrat:  Mark Warner/Russ Feingold
Republican:  Bill Frist/Tim Pawlenty

Results:  Warner/Feingold win 332-206
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2005, 02:37:17 AM »
« Edited: February 12, 2005, 07:33:33 AM by nickshepDEM »

Jfern, not to be a asshole or anything, but can you edit your post so the map doesnt show up.  I dont want maps all over the place on this thread.

His map does seem a little far-fetched, but its his opinion and he could paint the whole thing blue for all I care.  But your right, the idea of this thread was to make some realistic predictions and see who was the closest to predicting the outcome 4 years from now.
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2005, 02:15:29 PM »
« Edited: February 12, 2005, 02:24:17 PM by nickshepDEM »

So "realistic" that everyone picks their own side to win...

Well, most probably will chose their side to win, but that doesnt mean their maps arent realistic.  When I said realistic I meant no maps like... Kucinich or Gingrich winning in an electoral sweep or something off the wall like that.  Its just for fun, its not like we are getting paid by Fox or CNN to be analyst here.
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2005, 02:20:45 PM »
« Edited: February 12, 2005, 02:23:11 PM by nickshepDEM »

Ive talked to a couple people on different boards that either live in South Carolina or follow South Carolina politics and they say Sanford isnt all he is cracked up to be.  They say he hasnt done much of anything since he became Governor and the South Carolina GOP keep losing seats.  Anyone from South Carolina wanna' fill me in on how well he is doing down there?
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2005, 11:01:03 PM »

Rutzay,

Do you REALLY beleive that Gore could carry that many states after his repeated meltdowns?


Gore would probably carry the Kerry 2004 states minus NH and a couple others.  Hes done.
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2005, 01:38:27 PM »

Joe, where did you make that map?  It looks alot different than the Atlas maps.  Anyways, nice scenario.  I like it, except for the Hillary VP and Republican dominated congress part.
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2005, 11:40:55 AM »

My prediction is that the only certainty is uncertainty

Come on Al, give us your predicition and a nice scenario to go with it.  Smiley
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2005, 04:06:06 PM »

I agree with Soulty's scenario for the most part, but I think Gore would win Wisconsin and Oregon.  Why did you give those to Allen? 
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2005, 04:15:40 PM »
« Edited: February 16, 2005, 05:25:14 PM by nickshepDEM »

They could go either way.  I didn't want to cop out and make the margin razor thin, though.

Yeah, Im starting to get worried about Wisconsin.  That state has been inching closer and closer towards the GOP over the past few Presidential elections.  Im hoping the Democratic nominee in 2008 selects Russ Feingold as their VP candidate.  He would deliver that state by a pretty solid margin.  Also, it would allow the Democrats to focus more money, time, and energy in other important swing states.
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2005, 10:22:52 PM »
« Edited: February 24, 2005, 11:38:41 PM by nickshepDEM »


I agree, but Bayh gets Nevada, too, and Indiana is darker. New Hampshire would be darn close.

I would have given Bayh Nevada, but I think Sanford's libertarian views would sell well as opposed to Bayh's populism.

 As for Indiana, no matter how popular Bayh is there, the Republicans probably will automatically have 49 percent of the presidential vote locked up. That means Bayh will have very little room for error.


Agree with your post and predicition 100%.  If only it would come true!

Bob, you seem fairly moderate.  Who do you vote for if your prediction comes true, Bayh/Henry or Sanford/Santorum?
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2005, 11:40:37 AM »

AuH20, were you calling Bill Clinton a bad candidate back in 1992?
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2005, 11:54:32 AM »
« Edited: February 25, 2005, 12:03:43 PM by nickshepDEM »

AuH20, were you calling Bill Clinton a bad candidate back in 1992?

On the topic, don't kid yourself: Evan Bayh is no Bill Clinton. Neither is Bredesen or Warner or Richardson, for that matter, but that's because there is only one, just like there's only one Reagan. At least the GOP has a couple Governors with glimmers of greatness. The Dems just need some competence.

I wasnt comparing any of the 2008 potentials to Bill Clinton.  I wanted to see if you would shoot him down as a bad candidate too.

Who is on your list of good candidates,  Democrat and Republican?

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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2005, 12:26:07 PM »
« Edited: February 25, 2005, 05:10:23 PM by nickshepDEM »

I agree with your short list of top Republican candidates for the most part.  Sanford worries me the most of any potential Republican nominee.  I just watched his state of the state address and he seems like a pretty charismatic and down to earth guy.  Pawlenty, I think hes a pretty good candidate, but not on the same level as Sanford.  Ill have to follow his re-election close and then I will be able to give a better judgement.  Allen is just as dull and boring as Evan Bayh, if not more.

Here is the video of Governor Mark Sanfords state of the state address for all you Sanford fans...

http://www.knowitall.org/sos-2005.asx
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2005, 03:12:40 PM »

And we lose it in the house.  Do you know how pissed off I would be?
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2005, 03:14:20 PM »



I feel the way you do about Hillary, about Bill Frist.  I am not sure why people think that he can't win.  The cat thing?  He'll deny it, and it is so unbelieveable no one will believe it.  I think he's you guys' best candidate.

"That cat thing", he already admitted to doing it.
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2005, 04:34:15 PM »

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