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bagelman
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« on: October 24, 2015, 02:44:30 AM »

Ugh. The olds are going to ruin this streak.

Not really. There's a good deal of people who would support this if it wasn't for the monopoly clause.

Yep, this is why I'm voting against it.

Still, it's amazing how attitudes have changed about mary jane that a clearly flawed bill like this is able to reach such levels of support in an eastern state.
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bagelman
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2015, 04:07:53 PM »

Can someone please explain what their problem with the monopoly clause is?

It's crony capitalism. Pot is "legal" as long as you buy it from the crony legalized cartels. 
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bagelman
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2015, 05:22:36 AM »

I love pot and Issue 3 feels gross to me.

The fixation to change the way pot is bought infuriates me. You text a number, meet in a indescript place, exchange awkward words, pay and leave. Then, you share it with your friends. Buying it at a store feels so weird to me. My vision would be like a CSA:have a farmer's co-op grow it, and then have county/city level delivery to a central place (or even home delivery), where you pick up your order (made in advance).

The kind of people you have to interact with in that situation is not only the reason why there is support for issue 3 despite its flaws but also the reason why conservatives support tougher laws against crime and cameras on street corners. Buying it at the store is legitimate, buying it from a gangster is not and never will be. It also carries risks like the seller, typically a second hand seller connected to the mafia or the illegal cartels, adding other ingredients to make it more addictive or stronger/more dangerous for their profit, bringing weapons, or that trick they do where it suddenly costs more in person than on the phone. Stores on the other hand are public places that you don't need some special connection to access.

The fixation to change the way pot is bought is reasonable, the way it stands now you always have to "know" someone, and that someone isn't always a nice honest and upstanding businessman. At one point I was morbidly curious enough to ask "who do I have to know" and of course the response was something along the lines of "you're either in or out, and you're out" (I don't actually remember but being in HS I think they were somehow trying to hurt my feelings).
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bagelman
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2015, 09:47:12 PM »

1 has called in favor and 3 has failed...by a larger margin than I expected. Only one too early or close to call so far is 2, which has dropped to 53/47.
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bagelman
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2015, 10:12:22 PM »


And we did it. Issue one has passed as expected with a healthy majority and soon (well, eventually) we will finally be free of gerrymandered districts. Smiley
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