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weixiaobao
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« on: November 14, 2015, 12:23:45 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiQuCdv3A98

Swayed me a bit about the gun thing.

I wished people had fight harder in term of cultural war.  When people become naturalized citizens (in the USA), you have swear multiple oaths.  So how is it can be tolerate that surveys after surveys, a significant of European Muslims have views that would be constituted as traitorous to the country that they currently reside in.  Why are people like Anjem Choudary can be freely walk about spread ISIS propaganda?  And recruiting people for ISIS?

Are we that fearful of directly going after these people at specific Mosque that have history of recruiting for ISIS under the meme of Islamphobia??

There are things that can be tolerate and there are things that cannot be.  It is crazy the youth generation.  The tumblr, the vine, the twitter generation spoke out against free speech, blasted Charlie Hebdo because of sensitivity.  Mind boggling.  

As for non intervention, why should we go to war with countries that aren't at war with us?  Syria, or Libya, or Iraq.

ISIS is a different situation.  ISIS had repeatedly commit act of wars on the West soil.  And it about time, we treated as such.  

I don't understand why do the politicians still prevent Russia to take charge of Syria.  Let they do their things.  Recalled, it isn't Vietnam or Korea that ultimately ended the Cold War.  It is letting China and Russia alone long enough that they turn against each others.  That is a much bigger blow.

If Russia wants to deal with ISIS, let them.  But either way, ISIS must be deal with.  And deal with them with caution and tried to limited the amount of civilian casualty as much as possible.
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weixiaobao
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2015, 12:25:44 PM »

It will be either Islamic or some sort of nationalist dictatorship

Lol, after this attack on France??  No, each countries already starting to act.  If not, the seeds of doubt are already enter the public mind.
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weixiaobao
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2015, 12:38:57 PM »

What do you suppose the solution should be? Lock Muslims in interment camps?

Cultural wars.  It is unbelievable the popular opinions among the youth in regard to Charlie Hebdo was appalling.  As the attack went on last night, tumblr had trends like, "I pray that muslims be safe."  Crack down on people that recruiting for ISIS, and mosque that is known for recruiting for ISIS.  Treat them like a traitor under the laws, and not these bullsh**t rights.  Because traitorous actions = forfeit the right of citizenship.

And no free flowing migration.  I don't remember the exact figure, Obama want some 180,000 refugees in 2 years.  You want to do a nice act.  Fine.  But you cannot jeopardize the American citizens that you have a responsibility for.  180k under 2 years?  Even legal immigration can take way longer to process.  I, myself, took 10 years to get into the USA.  Interviews, background check, etc.

Is it inhumane for letting people in need, wait?  Yes.  But you need this process to help the right people.  Not just some random Middle Easterner posed as refugee so they can have better life.  Or that they don't really have an immediate need (like those Syrian who get into South America and then demand to be ship back to the Middle East cuzz they don't "want to live in poverty").  Or that they are actually a threat to national security.

How the heck is the Obama administration do adequate background check for 180k in 2 years on top of their other refugee quota which is like about 85k.  And then the legal immigration background check, to keeping tab of illegal immigration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asylum_in_the_United_States

And that is the USA, because it seemed Europe seemed to be even worst shape.  People flow into Greece unchecked.

Why do you think countries like Saudi, Qatar don't take any refugees in?  

Be humane, but be smart about it, and always consider your citizens at the highest order of priority.
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weixiaobao
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2015, 12:57:23 PM »

It actually says a lot about you that you think fascist pledges and guns are what keeps the peace.  No my friend it is acceptance, education, and jobs that has mollified our Muslims.

What does it said about me?  What do you know about me?  

Being an immigrant to this country.  I have gone to ESL (english second language class).  I have interact with a lot of Muslim students throughout my life.  Talking to Muslim friends and acquaintances on the daily basis.  People who share similar interest in tv shows, popular culture, etc.  And they shocked me with their views.  They shocked me when I read the sh**t they posted.  These western educated, middle class.  

Do I still feel that they are my friend?  Even though, they support execution for homosexuals and all other crazy sh**ts.  Yeah, I still interact with them.  In contrast I do have one Muslim female friend who is extremely liberal.  But I can't hardly call her a Muslim.  She doesn't know what she believe.  She like a Christian that cherry pick her own belief to the point that their faith constitute about the golden rule and that is it.  As for the majority of them that I interact with, said the craziest sh**t.

I don't need no Fox News to form my opinion.  I just need to hear them talk.

What the f is fascist pledge?  Do you have common sense or not?  If this is WW2, and someone openly recruiting others as Nazi spy.  What do you treat them?  Replace that with ISIS.

Holy sh**t, it is you.  IT is you, that generalize all muslims into a box.  While I clearly said certain Muslims and certain mosque that have history of recruiting for ISIS?  I wonder are you a bigot?  

As for guns, I don't like guns.  I never used a guns.  Probably if I can help it, I probably won't own one.

But the argument that Thunderf00t, a flaming liberal put forth has its own merit.

Why are you so close minded?
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weixiaobao
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2015, 01:01:26 PM »


What I hate about my fellow liberals are the cherry picking of statistics.

ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

1 in 5, 1 in 4, are they not a significant #s???  Sympathize with bombers?  Is that not treasonous?

 16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/article/detail/1619036/2013/04/22/Zestien-procent-moslimjongens-vindt-terrorisme-aanvaardbaar.dhtml

Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified.  1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

ICM: 5% of Muslims in Britain tell pollsters they would not report a planned Islamic terror attack to authorities.
27% do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate.
http://www.scotsman.com/?id=1956912005
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist.html

ederation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.
http://www.fosis.org.uk/sac/FullReport.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Poll%20Nov%2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Nov04.asp
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf

BBC Radio (2015): 45% of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent "mainstream Islam".
http://comres.co.uk/polls/bbc-radio-4-today-muslim-poll/
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weixiaobao
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2015, 01:37:00 PM »

How does that in any way contradict what I wrote or Gallup's statistics?  You are agreeing with me.  People who live crappy lives do crappy things.  People who live good comfortable lives do good things.  That has nothing to do with muh guns and fascist pledges nor religion for that matter nor race.

Didn't you read my last post?  I think you need to listen to more liberals on youtube.  I don't agree with you.  I agree with liberals like Thunderf00t or moderate like Sargon of Akkad, or Bill Maher, or Sam Harris.  You are the one, who don't read my sh**t.  Then start assume my positions and attack me.

No, I don't agree with you.  I don't agree with the liberal nonsense that blame everything on the social economics of things.  And down play other factors.

The people I talk to on day to day basis are either in college or already graduated.  They lived pretty well off, intelligent, and spout the craziest thing.  The liberals don't mind harping on Carson for the things he said.  But the muslims who said even crazier things.  There are a large portions of liberals who wouldn't dare to challenge them, out of islamphobe meme.

1 in 4, to 1 in 5, to whatever the statistic is.  Those are significant #s.  And we ain't talking about some poor guy living in Iraq and surviving daily bombs.

We are talking about people living in the West, enjoy basketball, educated in western schools, and still spout crazy things because of their religions.

NO I don't agree you.  But since you don't read.  I will repost what I posted.

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What does it said about me?  What do you know about me?  

Being an immigrant to this country.  I have gone to ESL (english second language class).  I have interact with a lot of Muslim students throughout my life.  Talking to Muslim friends and acquaintances on the daily basis.  People who share similar interest in tv shows, popular culture, etc.  And they shocked me with their views.  They shocked me when I read the sh**t they posted.  These western educated, middle class.  

Do I still feel that they are my friend?  Even though, they support execution for homosexuals and all other crazy sh**ts.  Yeah, I still interact with them.  In contrast I do have one Muslim female friend who is extremely liberal.  But I can't hardly call her a Muslim.  She doesn't know what she believe.  She like a Christian that cherry pick her own belief to the point that their faith constitute about the golden rule and that is it.  As for the majority of them that I interact with, said the craziest sh**t.

I don't need no Fox News to form my opinion.  I just need to hear them talk.

What the f is fascist pledge?  Do you have common sense or not?  If this is WW2, and someone openly recruiting others as Nazi spy.  What do you treat them?  Replace that with ISIS.

Holy sh**t, it is you.  IT is you, that generalize all muslims into a box.  While I clearly said certain Muslims and certain mosque that have history of recruiting for ISIS?  I wonder are you a bigot?  

As for guns, I don't like guns.  I never used a guns.  Probably if I can help it, I probably won't own one.

But the argument that Thunderf00t, a flaming liberal put forth has its own merit.

Why are you so close minded?
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