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Lyin' Steve
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« on: August 10, 2016, 10:31:04 AM »


I wonder what any of these people would do if they had a gun and some crazy person with a knife got in a struggle with them.

Also way to condescendingly blame the police officer for being attacked.  I'm sure if he had left his gun in his car his interaction with the knife-wielding psycho would have turned out just fine.
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Lyin' Steve
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2016, 01:13:48 AM »

I'm not sanguine about the officer going in with his gun drawn, but under the situation described if he had to enter, having his gun drawn makes sense. The question is, did he need to enter, but that brief article has insufficient info to say for certain, tho it looks like he did.
The knife guy had just left a Costco (or something) and the security tried to stop him for reasons that are unclear.  Knife guy put knife to his throat (this is all on video) and security gaurd backed off and the guy left the store.  Security guy calls cops.  The cops pull up in their car with the knife guy walking past them they start to get out as knife guy approaches, the driver is lunged at by knife guy, driver shoots him.

link to video

Like most of these, I don't know if the guy deserved to die, but I know what would have made him NOT dead.

I'm sure BLM will have this guy's face on a poster in the middle of a blocked highway during rush hour as they chant about how the poor sweet innocent man was shot by a racist cop.
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Lyin' Steve
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2016, 12:02:23 PM »

If this was the only time BLM did something like this you'd have a point.  But it happens a lot.  The argument that "it's a big organization with sh**tty or nonexistent leadership with a bunch of random loud moths regularly embarrassing them but the general purpose and overall goals of the group is a net good for society" is a much better angle than the one you seem to be taking.

I just don't see why anyone would make a big deal out of this except to discredit the broader message of BLM.

Because BLM is making a big deal out of it.  See thread title.

I'm sure it happens some times. However, it's not a socially important issue and focusing on this kind of cases over those BLM rightfully denounces reflects seriously screwed up priorities.

So whenever an example proves you right it's a very important issue but whenever there's a counterexample it's "not a socially important issue"?
They're all under the same umbrella.  The issue is "racist cops shoot innocent unarmed black people", or as Kendrick Lamar put it, "every time you clock in the morning I feel you just want to kill."  Is it true?  The counterargument is that in many or most of these situations, there were extenuating circumstances where the cop felt that he had no other option but to use deadly force, leaving not a national epidemic but a few isolated cases, like Baton Rouge, where everyone agrees the officers committed murder.  Every time there's a case like this where BLM is angry angry angry that a man was shot but it's clear from the evidence that the officer felt he had no other choice, that contributes to the counterargument.
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Lyin' Steve
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2016, 11:26:25 AM »

I'm not sanguine about the officer going in with his gun drawn, but under the situation described if he had to enter, having his gun drawn makes sense. The question is, did he need to enter, but that brief article has insufficient info to say for certain, tho it looks like he did.
The knife guy had just left a Costco (or something) and the security tried to stop him for reasons that are unclear.  Knife guy put knife to his throat (this is all on video) and security gaurd backed off and the guy left the store.  Security guy calls cops.  The cops pull up in their car with the knife guy walking past them they start to get out as knife guy approaches, the driver is lunged at by knife guy, driver shoots him.

link to video

Like most of these, I don't know if the guy deserved to die, but I know what would have made him NOT dead.
You left out the part about the officer already having his gun out as he was exiting the vehicle. Having watched the video, it's clear to me, albeit with the clarity of hindsight, that the officer was too close to the knife man when he exited the vehicle. There was space to begin the engagement at a distance that would have allowed everyone more time to react, especially for the knife man to realize he wasn't going to win that fight and do the sensible thing.

So the only fault I find on the officer's part is poor tactics, which may have been due to an ethos in that department that over emphasized the need to take charge of the situation.

WTF??  It's the officer's fault a crazy man tried to stab him because he didn't give enough time for the man to "realize he wasn't going to win that fight"?

No you idiot, it's the man with the knife's fault because he's the one doing the stabbing.
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