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pho
iheartpho
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« on: September 02, 2015, 11:27:36 PM »

If the alternative is Sanders or Biden, then she is unquestionably still the best option.

What should really have you worried is that there is literally no one of equal quality to fill the void should Hillary implode.
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pho
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2015, 12:21:04 AM »

If the alternative is Sanders or Biden, then she is unquestionably still the best option.

What should really have you worried is that there is literally no one of equal quality to fill the void should Hillary implode.
A Vice President of the United States, 36 Year Senator of Delaware. A Former Mayor of Burlington, Congressman, and Senator of Vermont. A Former Mayor of Baltimore, and Governor of Maryland. A Former Sec. of The Navy and Former Senator of Virginia. A Former Senator and Governor of Rhode Island.
Yup. No quality here, hun.

A Vice President of the United States...who compulsively puts his foot in his mouth.

A Senator from Vermont...who openly identifies as a socialist while apparently having no understanding of what that word means.

A former mayor of Baltimore and Governor of Maryland...who was succeeded by a Republican and  left office with a middling approval rating.

A former Secretary of  the Navy (under Reagan) and former (one term) Senator...who defends confederate "heritage".

A former Senator and Governor of Rhode Island...do I really need to explain why Lincoln Chafee is not a quality candidate?
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pho
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E: -0.13, S: -1.39

« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2015, 01:10:56 AM »

If the alternative is Sanders or Biden, then she is unquestionably still the best option.

What should really have you worried is that there is literally no one of equal quality to fill the void should Hillary implode.
A Vice President of the United States, 36 Year Senator of Delaware. A Former Mayor of Burlington, Congressman, and Senator of Vermont. A Former Mayor of Baltimore, and Governor of Maryland. A Former Sec. of The Navy and Former Senator of Virginia. A Former Senator and Governor of Rhode Island.
Yup. No quality here, hun.

A Vice President of the United States...who compulsively puts his foot in his mouth.

A Senator from Vermont...who openly identifies as a socialist while apparently having no understanding of what that word means.

A former mayor of Baltimore and Governor of Maryland...who was succeeded by a Republican and  left office with a middling approval rating.

A former Secretary of  the Navy (under Reagan) and former (one term) Senator...who defends confederate "heritage".

A former Senator and Governor of Rhode Island...do I really need to explain why Lincoln Chafee is not a quality candidate?

1. And Hillary has never made a gaffe?

2. *Democratic-Socialist, and I'm thinking by your reply you don't know that is.

3.  2014 - Republican Wave, Low Turnout, Blah Blah Blah. Really wasn't all O'Malley's fault, I'll leave his defense to Dimpled though.

4. Yeah, I know, damn southerner! No politician in their right mind would defend the confederate flag and especially not use it in campaign memorabilia...


5. Hey, he voted against the Iraq war... Can't say the same for peacenik Hillary though...

They aren't all the best cherries in the field, (trying to get my phrase to catch on) but they are "quality".

1. Not to the extent that Biden has. If anything, Clinton has been accused of being too calculated and careful on the campaign trail.

2. Sanders is a social democrat at best, which is an entirely different thing from a democratic socialist. Does Bernie Sanders advocate social ownership of the means of production?

3. That would be a decent argument if we weren't talking about Maryland.

4. That was 23 years ago, and it was distasteful then. Fortunately, both the Democratic Party and the country as a whole have changed for the better.

5. What has he done in the subsequent 13 years after that vote (which was really only notable because he voted no as a Republican).
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pho
iheartpho
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E: -0.13, S: -1.39

« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2015, 10:42:42 AM »

If the alternative is Sanders or Biden, then she is unquestionably still the best option.

What should really have you worried is that there is literally no one of equal quality to fill the void should Hillary implode.
A Vice President of the United States, 36 Year Senator of Delaware. A Former Mayor of Burlington, Congressman, and Senator of Vermont. A Former Mayor of Baltimore, and Governor of Maryland. A Former Sec. of The Navy and Former Senator of Virginia. A Former Senator and Governor of Rhode Island.
Yup. No quality here, hun.

A Vice President of the United States...who compulsively puts his foot in his mouth.

A Senator from Vermont...who openly identifies as a socialist while apparently having no understanding of what that word means.

A former mayor of Baltimore and Governor of Maryland...who was succeeded by a Republican and  left office with a middling approval rating.

A former Secretary of  the Navy (under Reagan) and former (one term) Senator...who defends confederate "heritage".

A former Senator and Governor of Rhode Island...do I really need to explain why Lincoln Chafee is not a quality candidate?

1. And Hillary has never made a gaffe?

2. *Democratic-Socialist, and I'm thinking by your reply you don't know that is.

3.  2014 - Republican Wave, Low Turnout, Blah Blah Blah. Really wasn't all O'Malley's fault, I'll leave his defense to Dimpled though.

4. Yeah, I know, damn southerner! No politician in their right mind would defend the confederate flag and especially not use it in campaign memorabilia...


5. Hey, he voted against the Iraq war... Can't say the same for peacenik Hillary though...

They aren't all the best cherries in the field, (trying to get my phrase to catch on) but they are "quality".

3. That would be a decent argument if we weren't talking about Maryland.

Maryland elected Bob Ehrlich, and also: Anthony Brown led a piss poor campaign. Plus, low turnout and GOP wave are legitimate points, even in Maryland. Do you blame Baker's victory in Massachusetts on Deval Patrick?

Massachusetts I blame on Martha Coakley, who apparantly couldn't win an election if she were running against NOTA. Besides that, Patrick was the onlg Democratic governor of Massachusetts since Dukakis left office in 1991—so its not like Baker winning was unprecedented. For comparison Ehrlich, who only served a single term, was the first Republican governor of Maryland since Spiro Agnew left office in 1969.
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pho
iheartpho
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Posts: 852
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Political Matrix
E: -0.13, S: -1.39

« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2015, 03:41:39 PM »

If the alternative is Sanders or Biden, then she is unquestionably still the best option.

What should really have you worried is that there is literally no one of equal quality to fill the void should Hillary implode.
A Vice President of the United States, 36 Year Senator of Delaware. A Former Mayor of Burlington, Congressman, and Senator of Vermont. A Former Mayor of Baltimore, and Governor of Maryland. A Former Sec. of The Navy and Former Senator of Virginia. A Former Senator and Governor of Rhode Island.
Yup. No quality here, hun.

A Vice President of the United States...who compulsively puts his foot in his mouth.

A Senator from Vermont...who openly identifies as a socialist while apparently having no understanding of what that word means.

A former mayor of Baltimore and Governor of Maryland...who was succeeded by a Republican and  left office with a middling approval rating.

A former Secretary of  the Navy (under Reagan) and former (one term) Senator...who defends confederate "heritage".

A former Senator and Governor of Rhode Island...do I really need to explain why Lincoln Chafee is not a quality candidate?

1. And Hillary has never made a gaffe?

2. *Democratic-Socialist, and I'm thinking by your reply you don't know that is.

3.  2014 - Republican Wave, Low Turnout, Blah Blah Blah. Really wasn't all O'Malley's fault, I'll leave his defense to Dimpled though.

4. Yeah, I know, damn southerner! No politician in their right mind would defend the confederate flag and especially not use it in campaign memorabilia...


5. Hey, he voted against the Iraq war... Can't say the same for peacenik Hillary though...

They aren't all the best cherries in the field, (trying to get my phrase to catch on) but they are "quality".

3. That would be a decent argument if we weren't talking about Maryland.

Maryland elected Bob Ehrlich, and also: Anthony Brown led a piss poor campaign. Plus, low turnout and GOP wave are legitimate points, even in Maryland. Do you blame Baker's victory in Massachusetts on Deval Patrick?

Massachusetts I blame on Martha Coakley, who apparantly couldn't win an election if she were running against NOTA. Besides that, Patrick was the onlg Democratic governor of Massachusetts since Dukakis left office in 1991—so its not like Baker winning was unprecedented. For comparison Ehrlich, who only served a single term, was the first Republican governor of Maryland since Spiro Agnew left office in 1969.

Are you trying to make the argument that Maryland is more liberal than Massachusetts?

Maryland doesn't have to be more liberal to be more Democratic on a state level. Since 1969, Maryland has had two Republican governors (including the current incumbent). 6/10 Massachusetts governors from the same time period have been Republicans.
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